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Why isn't Harden talked about like Sabathia?

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Harden has been just as good if not better than Sabathia since their trades to the Cubs and Brewers respectively. Just look at the stats.

Harden since trade (not including today): 3-1 W-L with a 1.50 ERA and has dominated hitters with an outstanding K/9 IP

Sabathia since trade: 8-0 W-L with a 1.60 ERA and has also been dominating.

The only reason Sabathia's W-L is so much better than Harden's is because the Cubs have not given Harden as much run support. Also today, Harden have up 1 ER and struck out 11 in 7 IP.

I'm not saying Sabathia hasn't been great, he has, but Harden has not been talked about nearly as much as Sabathia.

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  1. Sabathia basically goes complete every single time he pitches, as Harden usually only goes 5-7 innings.  


  2. sabathia is well known and harden came mostly out of the blue  

  3. ok this isn't meant to insult CC (i'd love to have him on my team), but i seriously think its because the media portrays him as a big, lovable fat guy that everybody gets along with. now im not sure what the media sees harden as because there aren't alot of stories on him. but harden has quietly been the best pitcher in baseball this year. his ERA after today is 2.00. That kind of ERA hasn't ever been heard of since pedro martinez in his prime. plus its not like he feasted on bottom feeders, either. He has dominated both leagues this year while CC was decent in the american league and looks great pitching in the NL.

  4. because harden only has 3 wins.

    Sebathia has 6 CGs and has been way better.

  5. Because He isn't well Liked, like Sabathia or as Consistent That's why Harden ain't talked about enough.

  6. Cub Guy, you know that CC got BARLEY any run support this outing, right? The brewers seriously SUCK with RISP and need to improve on that. At least he can't get charged with a loss

    Anyway, I think its because CC was traded first and was a move so the Brewers could get into the playoffs.

  7. hes not talked the same because he really hasn't had  a great chance to prove himself as a dominant pitcher

  8. Mostly because Sabathia went the distance in 3 of his 1st 4 games & he is a decent hitter... i'm guessing.

    the CC trade happened 1st & reguardless of what the Cubs say about the trade talks w/ the A's (were going on for 3 weeks) it seemed like a reaction to the Brewers move. CC was more sought after & Harden has had injury issues.

    at the time the Brewers were charging to the front of the NL Central w/ out Sabathia & this was suppose to / is suppose to be the reason or final touches for the Brewers to get past our Cubbies.

    I say let them talk about CC & the Brewers, get off the Cubbie wagon while us long suffering Cubs fans enjoy..... the MOTHER of ALL next years! I BELIEVE

    Eamus Catuli

  9. sabathia has been doing better

  10. mostly because sabathia has been going 9 innings in most of his starts, while harden probably averages 5 innings.  Lets not forget that these last 3 games he pitched in, were against atlanta, washington, and Cincinnati, some of the worst offensive teams in the majors.  And as you already stated, 3-1 vs 8-0, WHO DO YOU THINK IS BETTER.  dont let your cubs bias cloud your judgement

  11. just bc sabathia is hotter latley

  12. Don't worry, you don't want fame for your pitcher. Sabathia will choke in the post season, but Rich Harden won't have much pressure, and will stay calm and relaxed. Good luck for you and your Cubbies.

  13. Cause C.C's a bigger name. He went to the ALCS AND won the AL Cy young last year. And plus he's thrown like 7 complete games.

    And it probably helped that a small club (The Brewers) (Which FYI I am a fan of and I do live in Wis.) cause he brought them into the spotlight, where as the cubs were already in.

    And cause C.C. is just a better pitcher  

  14. Unlike today he usually only lasts 5 or 6 innings a game compared to Sabathia with all of his complete games

  15. Let's just say he's is Underrated

  16. Over the last 4 years,Hardin far and away has the best stuff. Unfortunatly, his whole career to this point has been decimated by injuries. He has to put a complete season together to get the noteriety he deserves....I love the guy.....he's on my fantasy team...

  17. Because CC takes up all the room in the media. He's like 300 pounds! All I know is that CC went 6 Innings Pitched and got rocked for 8 hits by the PIRATES!

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