Why should special need students be in school?

Question

The ones that have extreme conditions where all they do is flap their hands up and down and scream and drool, cry and distract others when they can't talk or spell words?

Who thinks they should not be in school?

Why should special need students be in school?

The ones that have extreme conditions where all they do is flap their hands up and down and scream and drool, cry and distract others when they can't talk or spell words?

Who thinks they should not be in school?

Answer 1

Why?  Because Federal Law requires that all students regardless of disablity are provided with a Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE).  While many people may not see the point of it, I see that as their own lack of education, compassion, and empathy.  I grew up with a brother who was a drooler.  I am now a teacher of hand-flappers, non-spellers, and distracters, and I will tell you, that my students are more qualified to teach the "normal" population about perserverence.  I don't think that I would have had the strength to survive the childhoods that some of my students did.  While I may have 3 college degrees, I still learn from my students every day.

For those who feel that special needs students should not be in school, I pray that at some point you find compassion & understanding in your lives.  If you open your eyes, ears, and minds, rather than just mouths, you may learn that you have so much to learn.

Answer 2

There is more to school that reading and writing. A lot of peer socialization happens in school. There are lots of things that you learn from people other than teachers or parents.

Think about how boring it is when you are someplace when everyone is a lot older than you or a lot younger than you. If they weren't in school theres a good chance that they'd be either in day care or with their parents.  I'd be you want to see your friends at school, so do they.

Most likely, they do a lot more than "flap, drool and scream".

Talking and spelling are over rated. Look at the internet. I can type this entire message without saying a word and if I spell something wrong there's the nice "check spelling" button. Just because someone cannot speak does not mean they have nothing to say.

I challenge you to spend some time with these folks and I'll bet that you'd learn something.

Answer 3

they shouldn't.

Answer 4

I was one of those "learning disabled retards" that was main-streamed where I was put into classes with the "normal" students and now with my 20th high school class reunion coming up next summer, this special ed "dummy" have straightened up in a huge way. I state this fact because I went back to college back in 2005 despite my family's objection and did earn a AAS Degree in Engineering where I graduated with a 3.82 GPA. Now I'm working to earn dual Bachelor Degrees in Computer and Electrical Engineering, where I have a 4.00 GPA, and I'm working fulltime at Teledyne as a machinist. I'm a member of the Phi Theta Kappa International Honor Society, on the 2007 National Dean's List, and I've been invited to the 2008 Engineering Delegation in China by the International Scholar Laureate Program. BTW, this past spring I had big-named universities such as University of Virginia, University of Maryland, Columbia, etc..... contact me granting me automatic admissions into their universities starting back this past August.

How many "smart students" do you know that not only took Calculus 1-4 but also aced the class? How many "smart students" do you know that drew attention from the US Department of Education by spotlighting how certain states were not only discriminating against us "Stupid little dummies" but were also defrauding the federal government out of billions of dollars a year by lowering test standards in certain localities to collect more federal dollars by saying "Our schools meet federal standards that was set under the NCLB Act of 2001?" Oh, really!! Is that why states like Michigan, despite having every public school in the state being fully accreditated under the NCLB Act, had a statewide failure rate of 54% as of 2004. Success? I don't think so. The last time I checked a 46% on anything is not a success but instead a failure.  A lot of these students that did fail were "smart students" that were looking for a easy way out of having to do school work.    

I can honestly say, "This "Learning disabled r****d" has never been in trouble with the law before." How many of the "smart students" can say that?" I doubt that many, considering the fact that I graduated with about two dozen people that are currently in prison for various reasons, such as drugs or murder.

I even went to school with a "normal student" that actually took a taxi-cab back in the fall of '88 to rob a bank. When the taxi-cab driver realized what was taking place, the cab driver drove off and left this moron behind. This mental giant did nothing but run across a busy 8-lane highway to a car dealership and try to steal a car. There is where he got busted. This "brain child" got 38 years in federal prison for bank robbery, attempted kidnapping, using of a firearm while committing a felony, and this does not count state charges of grand theft auto, etc...... This clown might not have been in any special ed classes, but he has been Big Bubba's boy toy for almost 20 years and he will remain Big Bubba's boy toy for a long time to come.

Edit: I forgot to bring up the fact that in the spring of '88, this "Learning Disabled r****d" took the ASVAB Test and qualified for the Navy's Nuclear Electronics Engineering Program but could not take advantage of their offer because I have a history of seizures. Can you, or anyone that you know, say the same thing?

So to answer your question fully "Should these children be in school?", my answer is YES. As long as MY TAX DOLLARS go to support these schools the disabled should be allowed to attend school.

Answer 5

to be honest i say yes and no,

for my reason yes

they do have a right to learn, but sometimes they make other people in the class room uncomfortable. ok my class went to a trip and they had "special children" we took care of them but some were to much, we loved this guy called andrew he had downs syndrome but he was funny with his jokes and he always threw sticks at me at the campfire lol but he was ok. back to the subject they should go to school but some should proberally be home schooled so they can get their confidence up with their parents around.

and my reason no,

they put people in uncomfortable positions because u do not know wat they are capable of, they scare me because this guy from that trip was talking to himself about his friends from space and it was almost as if it was real. they distract others so they are loosing concerntration and one day in the future this will be solved by something at birth or special schools that are for the one kind like downs syndrome or something like that. i really dont want to go against anyone but. its just an oppinion

Answer 6

I don't personally believe the students with major issues should be in the regular classroom, but I do believe they belong in school.  

- Age appropriate - Where are the other kids their age?

- They can learn and need to learn. The more they learn now, the less help they will need as adults.  Less tax dollars spent on them for their longer adult life, hopefully.

- Providing care from them helps take the burden off of the family to some extent.  If parents choose to put their children in institutions, it will cost the tax payers about three-quarters of a million dollars a year for LIFE.  Care and instruction during school hours cost a fraction of that.  

- School provides some protection for children who wouldn't have had and protection one hundred years ago.

PS When are they distracting to you?

Answer 7

I don't think anyone should be in school (which is why we unschool), but having a child who flaps her hands (but doesn't drool) I have to say, her IQ is just as high as anyone elses, but her autism causes physical reactions that she cannot control.

She is learning, and those around her had better learn to work with distractions anyway, that's what real life is all about. And isn't that what everyone says is the point of public school? To prepare for the real world?

Answer 8

What is your problem with it??  First let me tell you, I have a son with autism in the school.  EVERY teacher in the school comments on how well behaved my son is and how he is the one that they anticipate will misbehave, however it is the "normal" kids who are interferring with my son's education because of their distractive behaviors!!  So, what should happen with "those children" who are unable to be respectful or behave and they are "normal"????

Answer 9

All students with special needs can learn. No, they won't all learn how to read, write, spell or do math but they have the right to learn to make their lives as fulfilling as possible. The most severe students, like the ones mentioned, are not generally in the regular classroom. They are in typically in special education classrooms learning life skills like hygiene, taking care of themselves and a home, basic math for using money and using a checkbook, shopping, and being integrated into the community. All schools have behavior problems and students who do not follow the rules or are distracting to others. Their ability to read, write or talk has nothing to do with it. Students with severe disabilities get as much out of their education as you do out of yours.

To the above poster, I'm sorry you were disturbed by the students you went on a field trip with. Many people with disabilities can seem scary because you don't know them and don't know about their disabilities. I would suggest that you do some research on different types of disabilities and volunteer through Special Olympics or another organization that works with people with disabilities. What you'll find is that they have many similar interests as you like watching movies or tv, going places with their friends or families, eating favorite foods, playing games, laughing and talking (or interacting) with others. Get to know some people with more severe disabilities and you'll find how much you'll appreciate what you have.

Answer 10

Public schools are tax funded, therefore they're required to accomodate every student that wishes to attend, even if that student can do nothing more than drool and flap his or her hands. Those kids are usually sent to a private classroom, where they recieve physical therapy and the attention that they need. The only other alternative for these students are expensive private day cares or substandard government group homes.

I used to interact with these kids all the time when I was in school. You'd be surprised how intelligent they really are.

Answer 11

Hi--I am not going to give an answer whether I believe they need to be in school or not. But I do believe, everyone desevers a chance to learn. Everyone. No matter what.

Answer 12

First, this is a very offensive question in the way it is worded.  Just because a child cannot speak doesn't mean that he/she cannot communicate.  Being unable to spell words doesn't mean that a child shouldn't be educated or can't learn to spell.  

I would assume that when you were born, you couldn't walk, talk, etc...  I also assume that you weren't thrown to the side because you were useless at that time.  Someone took the time to teach you and you learned.  

Just because you learned at the average pace, and someone else might learn at a slower pace  doesn't mean that they can't learn and that there is no point for them to be in school.  There are afterall, some skills that will probably take you longer to learn too, everyone learns different skills at a different pace and while that drooling kid might not be able to count to 10, I bet he's already learned tolerance which is something that you, in all your brilliantness have not yet learned...but don't worry, I have faith that you will eventually learn to be tolerant.

Everyone has the right to an education...even you!

Answer 13

EVERYone needs to relate  to other people and school is a good place!!!!!SOCIAL SKILLS ARE A VERY IMPORTANT COMPONENT in humans lives!!!!

Answer 14

Where else should they be?  It sounds like you are disturbed by their presence.  If that is the case, may you never have a child who has a disability b/c you will not know how to handle it.

I teach special needs kids and I thank God every day for my child-since he is normal.  LIfe is so hard for these children, but even harder for their parents b/c of people like you.

Answer 15

I personally find this ? very offensive.

Do you understand that they don't get jobs like you can and that school is literally the greatest thing in the world to them.

You need to go watch the special olympics and just see how inspired these kids are!!!!