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Why some muslims call Darwinian "survival of the fittest" as a bad concept? Isn't this Allah's way?

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We're all here for a test. Some of us will pass, most of us will fail and enter the eternal fire. Insh'allah you won't go in, but many of your neighbours will. Isn't this the ultimate form of survival of the fittest- only those with the strongest imam pass and get heaven; those with weakest or no iman fail go eternal jahannam. There's no in-between.

This is ultimate survival of the fittest isn't it?

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  1. do you mean this?

    http://www.alislam.org/library/books/rev...

    and h**l is not eternal


  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5sfHz3xy...

  3. My dear friend salam for you.Muslims call darwinism as bad concept because of its theory of evolution that humans were developed from monkeys.We muslims believe in line with the Qur'an that the first man was created by Allah from soil and his wife Siti Hawa (Eve) was created from the last left ribbon bone of Adam.We denied that human was developed from monkey In Islam the most beneficient person (believe in Allah the only 1 God and no ally,obey to all of Allah's and Rasool's instructions and prohibitions or taqwa,)will enter heaven after death and after the judgement day. We do not say that the survival of the fittest will go to heaven.The srongest iman is man/woman who obey to all instructions and prohibitions as stated in the life guide the holy Qur'an and Hadits of Muhammad pbuh.The weak iman and taqwa of muslims will go to h**l.Muhammad pbuh said that only a small portion of muslims will go to heaven.Muhammad pbuh said that most muslim women will go to h**l because they often made ghibah and they did not thank to Allah of all delicacies given by Allah especially through their husbands  

  4. Most muslims are ignorant fools.. you only have about 4% of them that you can call mummins and mummina... the rest are keffer, hypocrites, lost and astray.

    This ummah has become very ignorant and discusting sheep leading sheep to the slaughter.

    It doesn't matter how you look at it and what you look at the answer is the same...IGNORANCE!

  5. The way it is in Islam, is to help and guide each other to achieve the final destination together.

  6. Well i think its ok, and thought that most muslim are fine as long as one remembers, as you said, its allah's way.....but i've been reading that pretty much only western muslims are fine with it.  

    THe correlation with faith i disagree with.  

    I sorta agree with zainab, but disagree at the same time.   Its not though that god has nothing to do with the theory of evolution, its that the theory has nothing to do with god.   Like the "theory" of why it rains.   Water molecules increase in energy and change state form liquid to gas, the gas condenses around dust particles to form clouds, the clouds become saturated and it rains......no god in there.  

    I think most muslims base their anti-evolution from the christian standpoint without realizing that christians think that adam was created about 132 hours after the creation of earth, so evolution is physically impossible.  Islam tells us not to think the 6 days are literal and we know that jinns inhabited the earth before man, so there is no time constraint.  

    And then there is the complete misunderstanding of what evolution is with the "if we came from monkeys, why do they still exist?" argument.  

    Would like to note though that evolution can never be proven without a time machine....and since we can't model it using elementary particle interactions, it can't ever be considered "science".  

    Oh and adam comes from dirt, but we are told we do too.......plants take nutrients from the soil and we either eat the plants or an animal that ate the plants....the molecules from the soil then become a part of us.

  7. Survival of fittest when spoken in darvinism is something to do with biology of evolution.

    What you are talking about is ultimate salvation.

    These are two different issues with some similarity. In reality those who goes to h**l also survive!!! but they shall survive for punishment. Entering into Jannah can't be called survival really.

    However, Quranic concept is "survival of benefitest"..

    Read this verse.

    أَنزَلَ مِنَ السَّمَاء مَاء فَسَالَتْ أَوْدِيَةٌ بِقَدَرِهَا فَاحْتَمَلَ السَّيْلُ زَبَدًا رَّابِيًا وَمِمَّا يُوقِدُونَ عَلَيْهِ فِي النَّارِ ابْتِغَاء حِلْيَةٍ أَوْ مَتَاعٍ زَبَدٌ مِّثْلُهُ كَذَلِكَ يَضْرِبُ اللّهُ الْحَقَّ وَالْبَاطِلَ فَأَمَّا الزَّبَدُ فَيَذْهَبُ جُفَاء وَأَمَّا مَا يَنفَعُ النَّاسَ فَيَمْكُثُ فِي الأَرْضِ كَذَلِكَ يَضْرِبُ اللّهُ الأَمْثَالَ

    13:17 He sendeth down water from the sky, so that valleys flow according to their measure, and the flood beareth (on its surface) swelling foam from that which they felt in the fire in order to make ornaments and tools riseth a foam like unto it thus Allah coineth (the similitude of) the true and the false. Then, as for the foam, it passeth away as scum upon the banks, while, as for that which is of use to mankind, it remaineth in the earth. Thus Allah coineth the similitudes.

    Read perticularly the last part of the verse.

  8. The theory says that all live on earth started with a single cell ,and that cell was a combination of earth matter that evolved through time with changing invironmet to be come alive........... in other words god has nothing to do with it?????!!!!!!

    this is very wrong

    parts of his theory is commen knowlage ....... creatures change with changing environment ...........eg. lions in asia differ from lions in africa

    also elephents

    we know that god created life on earth seperatly .......... when our father ADAM came to earth God sent the dog , Snake, and if im not wrong an olive tree or palm tree with him. This means that each creature came to earth and not evolved form any other creature.This is exactly what darwin is against.

    He also says that we evolved form monkeys.......no body found the missing link yet!!!

    if you see The holly Quraan you will fine out that its the other way around "وجعلناهم قردة خاسئين"

    God changed humans in to monkeys as a punishment, and not monkys into humans.

    Darwin was what we call in islam Molhed ملحد

    He probably started thisالالحاد

  9. because darwin was wrong

    and it's not imam it's iman aka faith ...u seem to have lack of knowledge about Islam  

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