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Why was Hillary trying to pass a bill to BAN VITAMINS?!?

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OMG. Before reading this article I never had anything against Hillary, but man has she blown it with me. I hope this message gets out to the masses. People need to know the truth about her. I cannot believe she tried to get vitamins vetoed! WTF!??!

Read the article written by Julian Whitaker, it's amazing to me how someone who lying to us, telling us she's all about helping us and healthcare, when she wants to BAN VITAMINS!!! She's nuts!

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  1. The article doesn't in any way support your assertation that Sen. Clinton was trying to ban vitamins.

    Now, whether the FDA _should_ be regulating vitamins is another debate... but if you want to have that, you should start out with less hyperbole if you want to be taken seriously.  IMO, of course.


  2. The government has several times tried to ban nutritional supplements.  Once they were flooded with millions of letters

    speaking out against this and pulled back,.

    The pharmaceutical industry is a heavy lobbyist with long arms.  Regularly people from regulating industries like the

    FDA transfer from politics to being CEO etc with big pharma..a little you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

    Since big medicine and pharma are such a huge part of the gross national product, they are not about to let their cash cows (us) go.  It is not to the benefit of the health care industry that we get better.  It is to their benefit that we stay sick or that we take lifelong drugs supposedly preventing sickness.

    It is almost like it is working hand in hand..give us high stress lives with not enough money and scarcity of jobs, crappy food, fast food on every corner, lots of illegal drugs,  poor air and bad water and watch the money from our resulting sicknesses roll in.  Throw in some serial reality shows like American idol to make big money from cds and merchandise and keep us from going outdoors in the fresh air, sunshine, parks and away from exercise.  

    The whole system seems designed to make and keep you sick..when you die, no loss..always some new cancer, diabetes, or heart attack victim to treat with expensive drugs and surgeries and procedures..and take your place.

    The ideal drug is insulin, for instance,..does not cure but you need to take it forever,,translating to big bucks over a lifetime..do they own stock in soda pop companies?

      They also love preventative medicines  for things you do not even have like take tamoxifen for life to prevent breast. cancer.again lifetime consumer and you don't even have a disease. You may never have gotten it anyway but that will not stop them from saying..see it worked.

    The first thing cut when school districts are strapped for money is phs ed class...who wants to encourage lifelong good habits in future adults..what they need to be doing is coming up with innovative and fun ways for kids to want to be fit and while they are at it, get rid of unhealthy school lunches.

    Pilot programs show that when kids grow and prepare their own organic gardens, they start loving foods like kale and turnips and fresh carrots.

      I once did a nutrition unit with 2nd graders and as part of the veggies section,, brought in dulse (seaweed)..I was student teaching..the teacher predicted noone would eat this but surprisingly over 2/3rds the class LOVED it and asked for more (dulse is a particularly tasty sea veggie).  don't underestimate kids and also positive peer pressure in changing them to good habits.

    Schools who use local farmers and get from them free range meats, dairy and produce can produce healthy and delicious organic school lunches for the same price as unhealthy garbage they usually fed..this makes for good lifelong habits and pressure from the kids to parents to purchase good not bad goods helping the whole family eat better.  Education is key,...and fun. It also helps small farmers to find a niche market and keep their farms while giving the freshest food available not transported 3000 or more miles and arriving to the store already old.

    If we can fix ourselves of all diseases with natural healing (which is mostly what I use with superior success), why do we need doctors (except for accidents and diagnosis) and medical procedures and drugs.  

    One is way healthier without them.  I, at age 58, take no medical drugs.  If I have to go to doctor or hospital, they look rather shocked, I take nothing so I am assuming this is fairly uncommon.  I do not take over the counter drugs either.  Only took about 15 aspirins in 30 years.  No cold medicines for as many years.  But lots of herbs and nutritional substances and healthy foods and practices.

    A head of a hospital named Mendelson once said "you will live longer if you never set foot in a hospital..think about it..horrible, un-nutritious foods, waking you up all night, constant stress and tests, loaded with staph infections, and tons of drugs..how could one get better in an environment like this..Patch Adams had insight..with his love for making things fun, helping others, and preventative medicine and other innovative ideas for transforming the way we do medicine.

    It was ok years ago when people were health "nuts"--when all one could find for organic foods in supermarkets were wilted organic produce..a few things in the back of the produce department looking sad among the colored new potatoes and waxed cukes.

    When no organic meats or dairy could be found outside a farm or small, expensive health food store or co-op but now it is mainstream..huge health food supermarkets Iike Whole Foods, Wild Oats, and Trader Joe's have sprung up knocking out many smaller, health food stores..nearly every big regular supermarket has a health food section and free range meats and organic yogurts etc. can be found nearly everywhere.

      People take supplements all the time and they know more about them than their doctors do and they are willing now unlike years ago to question their doctors and disregard their advise when they poo-poo supplements.  I remember in the 70's when one was not allowed to see one's own medical records and when a pediatrician once told me with a tad of anger.."you are not like my other patients..they never question me..they just do what I say" lol...I was never like that and my health is pretty good for my age and my kids turned out well..

    People are starting to know what herbs fix what even without a trace of the use allowed on the label.  If they cannot  stop the trend of people avoiding going to hospitals and doctors and thus getting expensive drugs, the big profits will cease to roll in..this must be stopped.

    Then they tried marketing directly to consumers in magazines and TV..ask your doctor to prescribe it for you..they give the doctors all kinds of perks to prescribe their drugs..must not be working, so since they cannot roll back the knowledge consumers have learned in what foods and vitamins and herbs are good for you. the only way to stop it is to ban it.  

    Throughout our history when natural healers like Dr John R Christopher, Dr Richard Schulze, Bernard jensen and others started having amazing, miracle cures curing things that medicine said was incurable like lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, MS and AIDS and so may more....and when lines of people started backing out the door at these places as people saw their friends and neighbors in tip top health when they were dying, the first to run to prosecute them for curing people were the doctors seeing their offices shrink in numbers of patients..people do not go where there is little help unless there are no other alternatives. This is how they want to keep it too..no health care freedom for this supposedly freest country in the world.

    You cannot stop it if they want it passed.  Just like almost all politicians especially upper echelon politicians are corrupt be they democrat or republican, they take bribes and they do what they are told, if big money wants a law passed or something done, it will get done..mark my words.

    Better to vote for a man of conscience like Dennis Kucinich for president..he is the only vegan in the US house of representatives and he is very into health and issues like this..he is for true not for profit single payer health care though the others tount universal INSURANCE  or care, it is not the same thing at all. Only Dennis for for real single payer health care that the governments own studies show is cheaper than what we have now..the rest must appease the insurance companies, hmos and phara as they get funds from them and not so much just from regular people like Dennis.

    http://www.dennis4president.com/home/

    He is running for president and incorruptible..you will likely not hear about him..he is routinely banned from debates (just happened in New Hampshire) and receives less than one percent media coverage but comes out high in straw polls like on the internet.  

    The vote does not count anyway.  I am a voting rights activist from Ohio (see my answer here) and studied this issue for 6 years.  

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    So why not vote Dennis in the primary to be heard..the election and both final candidates is fixed anyway (I suspect it will be Hillary they give us this time on the democrat side)..and likely a rep will win but either way, she is contaminated like all the candidates we supposedly vote for in the presidency so it matter not anyway..Vote for what you WANT  not what they give you even if the person has no chance as they pick the winner anyhow so your vote is not really wasted..it is a statement.. Have courage. Stop being their pawn..stand up and say..I will not vote for the crappy candidates you and the media select for us.

    The answer to health is to learn how to do the incurables program and stock up on herbs especially the ones in this program and make tinctures yourself..they have been found to be good 100 years later.  This will preserve them and you can fix any incurable or other illness with this program even one's doctors can't fix.



    Watch these videos save your life and healing crusade..here is where you can watch these $500 worth of videos for free.

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ri...

    Learn how to make tinctures. using bulk herbs you buy at health food stores and online for 1/10th the price.  

    Here are videos on how to do that

    http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=ti...

    Capsules are a poor way to take herbs anyway..use tinctures..they are easy to make.

    .  Use only organic or wild crafted (grown in the wilds) herbs as these are 7-10 times higher in the pytochemicals that prevent and cure diseases. Buy them in the bulk..some store have them for a dollar..the biggest expense is often the vodka (menstrum)..but it is generally still only 10% of store costs for tinctures and much stronger and more effective when made yourself.  If you don't want to do that, then buy Schulze's formulas at herbdoc.com or use herbpharm and combine the bottles to make formulas (but they may not have all the herbs you need).

    Then learn to juice fresh produce and drink a lot of fresh juiced/squeezed produce a day.  A book I read said people with all kinds of diseases started with one 8 oz glass of juice a day on week one, two on week two working  up to 6 -8 oz glasses on week six and stayed there and all their diseases went away even doing nothing else.

    Switch mostly to organic foods and get rid of all junk food and sugar and white flour..go whole wheat over cracked wheat (bulgar) over whole wheat flour..go whole oat groats over oatmeal...brown rice over white rice..pick produce with colors..like purple grapes over green and red onions over yellow over white

    Focus on a diet of whole grains, beans, raw nuts and seeds, sprouted foods,  lots of produce especially raw and little dairy and free range meats and mostly fish (deep sea like mackerel, herring, salmon and sardines)  or go vegan..

    Adopt health practices like, for instance, drinking green foods like spirulina etc, taking things like brewer's yeast, raw organic coconut oil, fresh brewed green tea (not the bottled stuff at store) taking raw apple cider vinegar with raw honey and so forth and you will not have too worry about taking vitamins and supplements..many are just fads anyway.  

    Get the book food your miracle medicine..by jean Carper

    http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll...

    and use food as your medical..

    Learn local herbs growing in your area and pick your own herbs for teas and tinctures and ointments etc..they cannot take that away from you. There are many herbs that are used for the same problem so if you can't find one, another in your area will likely work the same..this is why Dr Christopher's

    book is so helpful..he taught Dr Schulze whose save your life videos I mention in here.

    Get the book by Dr John R Christopher school of natural healing" It is excellent..see the story of what Dr Christopher was able to do for  very ill people with herbs and foods...he picked all his herbs and did not use supplements and herbs at a store but fresh picked herbs and foods and showed his patients how to do it also...and it worked fine.

    Get this book http://cgi.ebay.com/School-of-Natural-He...

    In the back of the book, it lists all the herbs that are antispasmodics, antiseptics,  diuretics, anti-infectants, anti-emetics, diaphoretics, cathartic, blood purifiers, heart stimulants, nervines, and so much more..just pick some of the herbs on the list..they substitute essentially although in the book you see some work better for specific problems tan others but in a pinch, just pick a few off the list of the type treatment you need...every thing a drug is used for, one can find many herbs used for this..often some are locally growing so if all else fails one can pick one's own or grow them in one's garden.  But easier to make the tinctures now and stock up for that day

    Then learn to control stress, anger, hate, meditate and/or relax, have spiritual peace, love people, have fun.  laugh, get fresh air and drink good water.  

    Get a shower filter that takes chlorine out of your shower (you get more in a ten minute shower than in drinking m any gallons of tap water).

    example of one  http://showerfilterstore.com/Merchant2/m...

    Do things like reflexology and skin brushing and hydrotherapy.  Be in nature a lot and go places like waterfalls and beaches and places where one feels good. Walk often.

    see Dr Shulze's 20 steps to a healthier you on the back of his free catalog (1-800-herbdoc) or see at herbdoc.com

    Do this things above and you can still keep yourself healthy despite what these jerks do with their rotten legislative laws designed to follow the money and help the rich and not the regular person.

    .We mean nothing to any of these people. It it isn't her, they will get someone else to do their bidding..these politicians rationalize that even though in some ways they have to sell their souls, at least they are allowed to do a few of the good things they want..they think the exchange is better than getting nothing they want..

    They cannot help you..they do not want to help you usually..you are not even on their radar..we are just sources of cheap labor and consumerism and ways to make money to them. we are the ingnorant masses in their view.

    Only we can help us and care about us..do not look to others..look to education and to yourself..and we the people are mostly apathetic and sheeplike..the average American, ..we do not worry them..the few that do, they either paint as conspiracy theorists to embarrass or marginalize them or find a way to surveillance and scare or stop us like the new homegrown terrorist act or the patriot act.

    These are dangerous people we are dealing with but we have the numbers on our side and the passion for democracy if we can recover our health and get our brains working at top speed again..they count on our lethargy and couch potato like status. we must look to the past and the bravery of founding fathers and patriots and fight for our country..only if we convince others to join in, can we conquer and we need to pray too that God will let goodness triumph.

    Be pro-active and work hard to try to fight them but if all else fails, try to fix your own health in other ways (that are really superior anyway) and you will be ok and then share what you know freely with others..they more people you win over, the more chance we have of beating them in time.  When people demand what they want and refuse to settle, sometimes the stores and health industry has to give us what we want or lose us..

    Generally evil does not triumph forever, though when you are in it, it often seems that way.

  3. ive been saying it for years,she is a pathological liar,so is her husband,they only want whats going to put cash in their pockets,they really couldnt give a **** about people like you and i,in any way shape or form.

  4. I'm not supporting Hillary, nor do I know the entire story about the vitamins.  However, some people do not like the fact that vitamins aren't regulated by the government.  No one checks to see that the vitamin C tablets you are taking are actually vitamin C tablets.  Unlike medicine which is regulated by the FDA.  Too many vitamins can kill you, which is why some politicians and doctors would like to ban vitamins.  

    Again, I am not supporting the ban, I am only offering you the other point of view.

  5. I'm not going to read the article but my gut reaction is, "Good!".  Vitamins are unregulated and people are insanely abusing them.  People need to learn how to keep their bodies healthy without the magic pills.  OR, there needs to be regulation and education.  Why don't you just quickly add why she wants to ban them?  Then I could respond a little more intelligently.

    Edit:  I'm definitely not reading the article now because based on your additional details you're obviously a conspiracy theorist and therefore, I am wasting my time with this.  Trying to 'stop people from getting better'?  I wish you could see me twirling my finger around and around my ear right now.

  6. I'm not in the least bit surprised and also I agree with most of what Janie says except that insulin is not medicine but a substitute of what we need to survive with like air for instance. Hillary has her own agenda and that is no different from the rest of the others which is to make a ton of money--I'm more surprised that people don't realize this than anything else.

  7. there should be some organization keeping an eye on the quality etc ,of things passed off as health related non drug drugs, i hope wild bill isnt tearing it up in bed again,and this isnt  hillarys attempt at slowing him down

  8. This bill is just one more restriction on our freedom to choose our healthcare.  What will end up happening, at least in my household is that I will get my suplements from Mexico, or I will grow them.

    This is why big government is a bad idea, and we need to vote for whoever is advocating national sovreignity and smaller government.

    This idea of controlling the supplement market has been bandied about for years.  The WTO is the organization behind it, because it would give the internationalists control of our ability to take care of ourselves., And it would force the idea of universal health care.  If we were absolutly dependent on big business to provide health care, then we wouldn't have any choice but to access their services.  There would be a monopoly, and one size fits all with regard to how we are treated for disease.

    This is dangerous, because if they were the only ones who were able to provide care, then they would decide who was worth treating, and we would rapidly see a decrease in treatment for debilitating disease.  People who were no longer considered good risks, would be allowed to die.  We are allready seeing this to some extent in the proliferation of the hospice programs, and it seems to me, the rush to put someone into them.  In hospice, if you get pneumonia, you aren't given antibiotics, you are just allowed to die, of an easily curable disease, even if that isn't the reason you are in hospice in the first place.

    At least now, if the family is able to afford it, they can get supplements which can prolong life, and increase comfort.

    If this bill is allowed to pass, that will no longer be possible.  At least not legally.

  9. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMXNtuaq3...

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