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Why was the coronation of Queen Elizabeth II seen as an insult in Scotland?

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Was it purely to do with her not actually being the second 'Elizabeth' in Scotland or is there more to it?

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  1. Is it?


  2. before england raped and pillaged Scotland ...England had already had a queen Liz......so when the German queen Liz  became head of state in 1952 ,,,she was the English 2nd queen Liz and Scotland's 1st  ......simple as that

  3. i heard it had something to do with her being ginger or her bloodline being questionable, not really sure though, just something i heard.

  4. Where did you get this information from?

    What a strange statement.

  5. Er, no.  She was actually crowned simply as Queen Elizabeth here in Scotland.  The reason for that is as you pointed out, that is, we had never had a Queen Elizabeth in Scotland before her.  I was not aware it was seen as an insult though.  Mind you if you look at the old pillar boxes they only had ER on them & not ER II.

  6. Because she is Queen Elizabeth second of England but Queen Elizabeth the first of Scotland....

  7. I think this story arose from an incident when she was Princess Elizabeth. On holiday at Balmoral, she refused to join a haggis shooting party on the first day of the haggis open season, declaring that the wee beasties should be a protected species.

  8. Because the Scots like to blame the English ffor everything ignoring their own history except when it suits them.

    They of course treated the Picts like long lost brothers when they invaded Scotland from Ireland

  9. I wasn't aware that it was in that HM's title is Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland  and of her other Realms and Territories.

  10. Something to do with the Stone of Scone which was used to crown the ancient kings of Scotland,  which that dirty slag King Edward 1?? stole from Scotland

  11. Some thought that perhaps Elizabeth II, whose coronation was held in Westminster Abbey on 2 June 1953, should have travelled to Scone! [In the eyes of many Scots, the "legitimacy" of kings and queens to rule over Scotland depends on whether or not the current Stone of Scone (currently ensconced at Edinburgh, not Scone) is the true Liath Fàil, the true Stone of Destiny. If the true Liath Fàil is still at Scone, the Scots may yet be able to prove the English monarchs to be "illegitimate."

  12. The Queen found a dangerous rival in her Catholic cousin Mary, Queen of Scots, who was the wife of the French King Francis II. In 1559, Mary had declared herself Queen of England with French support. In Scotland, Mary Stuart's mother, Mary of Guise attempted to cement French influence by providing army fortification against English aggression. A group of Scottish lords allied to Elizabeth deposed Mary of Guise and, under pressure from the English, Mary's representatives signed the Treaty of Edinburgh, which led to the withdrawal of French troops. Though Mary vehemently refused to ratify the treaty, it had the desired effect, and French influence was greatly reduced in Scotland.

    Later, several conspiracies aimed at bringing England back into the Catholic Church centered around Mary of the Scots, and after great hesitation Elizabeth had her executed.

    Upon the death of her husband, Francis II, Mary Stuart had returned to Scotland. In France, meanwhile, conflict between the Catholics and the Huguenots led to the outbreak of the French Wars of Religion. Elizabeth secretly gave aid to the Huguenots. She made peace with France in 1564, agreeing to give up her claims to the last English possession on the French mainland, Calais, after the defeat of an English expedition at Le Havre; but not to her claim to the French Crown, which had been maintained since the reign of Edward III during the period of the Hundred Years' War in the fourteenth century, and was not renounced until the reign of George III during the eighteenth century (a few years after the French Revolution).

  13. It wasn't an insult to scotland, where do you people get these dumb ideas?

  14. I am Scottish, are you trying to start a fight between the Scottish and their English cousins? Are you a wee mixer of the peace my wee man.eh.

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