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Will Army recruiter get into trouble? ?

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Anyone know if the Army recruiter get into trouble if the canditate he or she recruit decide to quit after signing the contract and taking oath?

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  1. You are not really in the military until you complete basic training. Any time durring boot camp & before then is open for recruits to quit. Recruiters don't get into trouble unless they break rules themselves (& get caught).


  2. I'm pretty confused on this one.

    While I was in boot camp, we had several people quit.

    Processed out as "unable to conform to military lifestyle". No discharge paperwork, just voided their contract and sent home.

    I have also seen people refuse to leave for boot camp and the recruiter do the same thing.

    The first time they swear you in at MEPS is into the reserve and doesn't do much more than make you feel like you are obligated.

    I'm in the Navy, so maybe that is the difference.

    To answer the question, no the recruiter will not get in trouble.

  3. Once you sign and recite, you are "in" (almost) and you are not able to just say never mind and quit.

    Being as you will not be able to just quit, he will not get in trouble.

  4. Don't go AWOL.

    You need to go talk with your recruiter, ASAP.  

    The guy above me has no idea what he is talking about. You have been sworn in already and have signed your LEGAL BINDING contract. I highly HIGHLY doubt you will be able to get out this contract.

  5. The recruiter is going to go down by one on his count for that month and maybe have to pull longer hours trying to make it up.  Oh, and add extra training maybe.  But usually nothing more serious than that if he or she didn't do anything wrong.  It happens.

    The recruit who quit can get in a lot of trouble if they just drop off the face of the earth.  They signed a legal contract and need to get out of it legally if they no longer what to go.  If the recruiter or office are having trouble meeting their goals for getting people in that person may have to sit through several people trying to change his or her mind but as long as the answer is still "I think I made a mistake, I want out" they will eventually get the contract nullified.  If you're the one with the changed mind go through the process.  It'll be long and unpleasant but it will get you out with no legal problems.

  6. No they don't get in trouble. The military knows that not everyone will make it through Basic Training.  

    However, you can't just "quit". As you menitoned, you have signed a contract. You can't re-nogitaite your contract or like athletes do. You have to do what they tell you once you are in the military.

    The preson below doesn't know what he is talking about. You cannot quit boot camp.

  7. Actually, you can get out of the DEP, irregardless of what a few say here. Is it Honorable? Not in my opinion, however, the old saying "you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink it" is appropriate.

    Here is an exerpt, with some sources...

    "Legally, it is possible for the military to involuntarily activate a Delayed Entry Program member who then becomes subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice and may be apprehended by military or civilian authorities. Does the military ever do this? Nope.

    Does the military sue for breach of contract? Nope.

    Are there any consequences at all for violating their word of honor? Nope.

    In fact, the Army Regulation (USAREC Reg 601-95) states:

    "At no time will any [recruiter] tell a Delayed Enlistment Program enlistee he or she must `go in the Army or he or she will go to jail,' or that `failure to enlist will result in a black mark on his or her credit record,' or any other statement indicating adverse action will occur if the applicant fails to enlist."

    The Navy Directive (COMNAVCRUITCOMINST 1130.8D) says:

    "Threatening Delayed Entry Program member[s] with possible disciplinary actions for failing to fulfill their contractual obligations is inconsistent with the concept of the All Volunteer Force (AVF)....[No member of the Delayed Enlistment Program should] be told that it is Navy policy to order or force an unwilling member to recruit training or to any other form of active or Reserve duty."

    In most cases, if a member refuses to report for active duty, the military simply voids the enlistment contract, or issues an uncharacterized discharge."

    The DOD reg is as follows...

    "DoD Directive 1332.14 (November 21, 2003)

    E3.A1.1.5.5. Separation from the Delayed Entry Program

    E3.A1.1.5.5.1. Basis. A person who is in the Delayed Entry Program may be separated because of ineligibility for enlistment under standards prescribed by the Secretary concerned or upon his or her request when authorized by the Secretary concerned.

    E3.A1.1.5.5.2. Description of Separation. Entry-level separation.

    E3.A1.1.5.5.3. Procedure. The person shall be notified of the proposed separation and the reasons therefor. The member shall be given the opportunity to submit to the separation authority a statement in rebuttal by a specified date (not less than 30 days from the date of delivery). The notice shall be delivered personally or sent by registered or certified mail, return receipt requested (or by an equivalent form of notice if such service is not available by the U.S. mail at an address outside the United States). If the person fails to acknowledge receipt of notice, the individual who mails the notification shall prepare a Sworn Affidavit of Service by Mail (see DoD Directive 1215.13, reference (p)) that shall be inserted in the file along with postal Service Form 3800."

    Just remember.. YOU have to live with the decision, and the guilt of not living up to an Oath that you willingly took, in fact, that You ASKED to take.

    Now, if you take the 2nd Oath, at MEPS, just as you Ship... tough, you are in.

    The above stuff refers to the DEP.

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