Will being a Maoist prevent me from becoming a lawyer recognized by the bar? I go to NYU the best in the USA?

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Will being a Maoist prevent me from becoming a lawyer recognized by the bar? I go to NYU the best in the USA?

Now it does say violent and unlawful but during the 1950s the CPUSA's constitution forbid using unconstitutional means to take power and that didn't stop McCarthy from throwing them in jail. Even the military allows membership in "totalitarian" organizations as long as no uniform is worn at events. Its 2008 and "liberal" New York prevents Communists, Anarchists, and any revolutionaries from becoming lawyers!

They even use the term "loyalty oath" right out of McCarthy!

LOYALTY / OATHS /CODE OF PROFESSIONAL RESPONSIBILITY

18. Have you ever organized or helped to organize or become a member of any organization

or group of persons which, during the period of your membership or association, you knew was

advocating or teaching that the government of the United States or any state or any political

subdivision thereof should be overthrown or overturned by force, violence or any unlawful means?

. If your answer is in the affirmative, state the facts below._________

_________________________...

_________________________...

19. Is there any reason why you cannot take and subscribe to an oath or affirmation that you

will support the Constitutions of the United States and of the State of New York? __________. If

there is, please explain.

.

20. Can you conscientiously, and do you, affirm that you are without any mental reservation,

loyal to and ready to support the Constitution of the United States? .

21. (a) Have you read the Disciplinary Rules of the Code of Professional Responsibility

adopted by the Appellate Division (see, 22 NYCRR Part 1200)? _________________________...

(b) Will you conscientiously endeavor to conform your professional conduct to them?

____________.

***

Since this is a continuing application, I will submit such additional affidavits, papers

or information as may be requested or as may be necessitated by any change in my situation

up to the date of my appearance before the Appellate Division to be sworn in as an attorney

Answer 1

Follow my logic here - candidates favoring proletarian rule could possibly be elected if they had a mass movement behind them to overcome the money machines. And measures to socialize the economy could then be legislated, including constitutional amendments. But the results of such elections would INEVITABLY have to be defended in the streets. Then it would be the *COUNTER*revolution that would be an attempt to "overturn by force."

Thus their formulation does not necessarily apply to those who hold a Marxian conception.

Another point is that political freedom is supposedly enshrined in the federal and state constitutions in the USA, and this is an obvious violation of that freedom. Are constitutions higher law than statutes?

I will leave the question as to whether you owe obedience to any laws formulated by the ruling class, and as to whether you should answer whatever you think they want you to answer in order to become a lawyer, for you to decide as an exercise in logic.

I would never write something online advising you to break the law. That would mean I would be breaking the law myself. And we both know I would NEVER do that!

By the way, Maoism has severe deficiencies, and more than a few deformations. You really should consider reading some Trotsky. But don't think that ANY left group, regardless of line, is immune to pressures from bourgeois society and will stay "pure." You must be prepared to go into opposition to the leadership of any Marxist group you might join, or else you will have abandoned the concept of democratic centralism. And any group that would object to that statement has already abandoned it.

And of course Fatgoose has to chime in and show his ignorance. If no leftists could become lawyers, the ACLU would still have almost all of theirs.

Answer 2

short answer probably not otherwise the aclu would not have any lawyers

but it should

your politics are a threat to this country and the princibles upon which it was founded