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Will we one day live in a world where we still eat meat, but we know that no animal suffered for it?

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I love meat. I am a total carnivore. But the thought of animals feeling pain and discomfort makes me feel bad. I watched a video from some animal rights group the other day that really made me question things.

Could we one day have a world where all the meat we eat comes from animals who lived lives free of discomfort of any sort, and then die an instant, painless death?

This would make things easier.

What do you think?

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  1. No cuz you cant get the meat out of a dead animal so you have to kill it to eat it. Some dont make the animals suffer though but i still think that its morally wrong.

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  2. Sorry, that day will never come on this planet,

    Because it is already a proven fact

    that when a person is hungry they will eat anything!

  3. I'm not so sure they actually suffer now. Being a believer in God, I believe animals live from within the Kingdom, teaching us all the time its ways.  When they die, I think they feel love to balance out the suffering of their body.  That doesn't make it any easier for us to witness, however, but maybe it's meant to be that way for our own suffering and building of the qualities of immortal gods who have "seen it all."  So our dealing with the slaughter of masses of animals may just be another gift of suffering, but a good kind of compassion.  We live lives of relative comfort, and yet we still have compassion for the beasts who can't communicate with us.  It must look pretty good in the eyes of God, wouldn't you say?  Tests, tests, tests... all the time another test.

    Once the whole eternal life thing sets in, we'll be eating immortal flesh from cows who can talk to us and give us their body parts willingly and with rapturous pleasure.  It'll make both acquiring fresh meat for the grill and eating it more luscious.

    Damaeus

  4. possibly through cloning.However fear and pain make meat taste better and be more tender.so cloned meat even if safe will never be popular with true omnivores.

  5. Well.

    I doubt that we could. People never learn unless they go through it themselves.

    And, dieing for a dinner table is pain.

  6. It's quite possible. They are developing meats in labs that if successful will put an end to most animal suffering as far as meat animals go. Before you go "ewwww", you should realize that MANY ingredients in what you eat are heavily processed or created in labs to begin with.  

  7. That is impossible. To obtain meat, an animal has to die and it could easily be argued with merit that killing is cruel unto itself.

    One thing you have to realize though is that you watched a propaganda video. It is specifically designed to arouse the same feelings you have described after watching. In that sense, you fell for it.


  8. I am also an omnivore, but am a big proponent of local eating.  Instead of eating super store factory raised meat, why not investigate a local farmer who raises heirloom or free range animals.  Most of these are tended to carefully, not crowded or hormone injected, and are dispatched about as humanely as possible.  

    I am equally if not more concerned about the burden we place on our environment as I am about animals.  The energy used to transport food from far away manufacturers is more than the energy that is absorbed in nutrition.  So while eating exotic veggies saves animals, it ultimately contributes to the destruction of the planet.

    Know your local farmer, grower, producer, and save the miles and gallons of fuel used in transport.  The quality is higher, and the products - eggs, milk, cheeses, meats are from animals generally treated well.  

  9. Well it might actually happen when we find a way to cultivate tissue cells without the animal attached.  I'd think it'd be a very real thing, since it would cut down on a huge amount of overhead involved with raising and maintaining living animals, which would certainly inspire companies to want it as soon as possible.

    But I think doing it for the animals' sake puts the priorities all wrong.  In fact, once we do figure out how to cultivate meat that way, we'll probably put to death thousands upon thousands of now-redundant, meat-only livestock.

  10. I heard scientists were working on a way to genetically clone just meat....but it just grosses me out to think about eating flesh, so I wouldn't eat it even if someone figures out how to just grow a slab of cow out of a vile.  sick.

  11. Your in the first step of becoming a vegetarian (Guilt). We can produce animal tissue cells without the animal attached now. This is how skin graphs are made for burn victims. It would work if people didn't mind paying $1000+ a pound for lab grown beef.

    I suggest you try some fake veggie meats. Get yourself a vegetarian cookbook and try a few meatless meals.  

  12. Only if we demand it from our government.  The only way to protest the current system of factory farming and animal cruelty is to refuse to give it your money.  Be a vegan.  Demand change.  

    It won't just happen.  We have to MAKE it happen.  Don't listen to the cynics.  Cynics said we could never end African slavery in this country.  Cynics said women would never be taken seriously and could never vote.  Cynics are wrong.

  13. Exploiting animals always makes them suffer.

    Even if you make up some hypothetical such as 'what if the animals were sedated throughout their life and didn't even know where they were?' there's still the fact that you're bringing a life into the world, doing things to it and then destroying that life because of your own wants - it's completely uneccesary.

    A good question to ask yourself is: would it be alright to do the same thing to human children? Would it be alright to drug them up so much they weren't even aware of their own existence and then salt and eat them? Of course it isn't, so it's not alright to do it to any animal. We are all living, conscious, thinking and feeling beings. We all deserve equal consideration and respect.

    What would makes things easier was if people were given a better oppurtunity to see how uneccesary eating meat and animal products is, and given the chance to see that speciesism isn't right and that we all have rights.

    The best solution is to go vegan. You won't be exploiting any animals, it's better for the planet and it's better for you. And it tastes great, too. Don't be fooled by stupid sterotypes of the lettuce-head and carrot muncher, there are loads of great vegan foods and recipes out there.

    Sooooo go vegan! If not, vegetarian is a great first step.

    I hope this helps,

    Tim

  14. First of all, if the video you saw was from PeTA, then it was probably sensationalistic and dishonest. PeTA is not an animal rights group, they are a self-promoting cult.

    I don't like the idea of killing animals, but I like the idea of test-tube meat even less. If you like to eat meat, look for organic, local and cruelty free sources of meat. If you know any hunters, ask them if you could buy some of their kill. The animals killed by them fit the best description of "animals who lived lives free of discomfort of any sort, and then die an instant, painless death".

    Maybe you could learn to hunt yourself.

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