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With respect to Abortion, do condoms, IUDs, the Pill work in preventing pregnancy?

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If they do, they why is there a debate about abortion at all? If women don't want a baby, then use birth control or abstain ffrom s*x. It doesn't seem that difficult. Am I wrong?

(Not talking about the extremes in this case, rape, incest etc...)

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  1. because these forms of birth control are not 100% safe. There is ALWAYS a chance of getting pregnant even if you used two birth controls together (i.e. condom and the pill) correctly there's still a chance. The only 100% safe birth control is abstinence. (no s*x at all) Which most will not choose in this day and age. instant gratification is what people want today. They don't think about the consequences of their actions all they care about is the 'here and now'


  2. Every person who doesn't want a child should be using contraception, or even abstinence if that's a realistic option for them. Although many methods of birth control are over 99% effective, there's always going to be a few unlucky ones where it doesn't work properly. In that case we have the morning after pill or the coil. If that doesn't work then there's abortion, but only as a complete last resort.

    I think that if women (AND men) are too stupid to know how to use contraception, they shouldn't be having s*x in the first place. It's not difficult to put on a condom. But sometimes, even when you do everything right, s**t still happens.

  3. yes there are plenty of tried and tested anti-abortion solutions that allow unfit mothers avoid having to murder babies.

  4. There is no contraception that is 100% effective, and also most contraceptives are hormonal which have negative side effects.

    I'm sorry if you have a problem, but normal people that have a s*x drive will not abstain from s*x. s*x is fun and enjoyable, why should we abstain from that? It's not natural.

  5. No method of birth control is totally effective.

    Having said that, I am aware that many abortions are sought and obtained by young unmarried women.  To say that abstinence is the answer is totally impractical.  I don't approve of these children having sexual relations, but the peer pressure is unbelievable, and in some geographical areas, and subcultures,  pregnancy and/or abortion is a rite of passage.

    Man of these children allow their raging hormones and desires to take priority  over rationality and they get into activities that are impulsive and not always planned (unprotected s*x).

    I believe you are wrong when you say it can't be that difficult. I believe that it is very difficult for those young people who don't have family and cultural mores.  After all, consider that many of them are second and even third generation drug/alcohol abusers  and are products of unplanned pregnancy themselves.

  6. I certainly believe that women should make sure that they don't get pregnant if they or their partner do not want a child. But you don't seem to think that the other part of the word partner should have any responsibility. There would be no abortions if each P A R T N E R took the responsibility for birth control regardless of what the other partner tells them about being on birth control, being sterile, etc. If a person does not want a child, then they should use birth control. Period!

  7. i think they do i have took the pill since a month after my 17th birthday i am now 24 and a half.

    i have come off the pill twice in that time and both those times i got pregnant within the month so i know i am very fertile but the pill has always been good to me.  

  8. They only work most of the time.

  9. Yes, they definately work. I think they are 99% effective, or something like that. Provided the condom doesn't have a leak, the IUD is properly installed and the pill is the right kind. There's no legit reason for killing the kid except for the extremely rare case of saving the mother's life. ♥ ∞

  10. In response to the post above, I think it's because some women are more fertile than others. I, too, never had a pregnancy scare while I was taking birth control pills and I didn't always take them correctly. I have since learned how easy it is for me to avoid pregnancy. After I had my first daughter, it took me three years to conceive again. I know of women who have gotten pregnant again as little as six weeks after having a baby.

  11. I totally agree. However, a lot of people, especially teens, aren't thinking logically about the long-term when they're having s*x. They just want to have fun and think that pregnancy and STDs can't happen to them.

    BTW, I think that most women who "get pregnant on the pill" are not taking it correctly (i.e., skipped doses). I have been on the pill through three relationships (total of eleven years) and have not had so much as a pregnancy scare, let alone a pregnancy.  

  12. Well, let's first address the MOAs of the agents you mentioned.  They're not "abortifacients" per se. (Unlike, say, RU-486).

    Condoms (sheaths) prevent the sperm (in the seminal colloid) to unite with the ovum to form a zygote, i.e. mechanical prevention of conception.

    IUDs deliberately irritate the lining of the uterus (endometrial cavity) such that implantation of the conceptus is impossible (in utero).

    The OCP works essentially by inhibiting the ovulatory LH surge via negative inhibition by oestrogen.  The addition of progesterone also "confuses" the endometrium into thinking it's "gestating," if you will, thus reducing the opportunity for a second ovulation/conception.

    Abortion refers to the case when conception leads intrauterine implantation of the embryo, and the said embryo or foetus ("fetus" per American English) must be either medically or surgically extracted.

  13. It seems fairly logical doesn't it.  But even in a world where people are responsible, nothing (other than abstinence) is 100% effective.

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