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With the high cost of gasoline,will natural gas follow suet.?

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Are natural gas conversions on vehicles a good way of alleviating the gasoline crunch at the moment and of course a better solution for the enviroment.Not everyone can afford a Hybrid vehicle.

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  1. If the demand for them goes up and the supply drops it will.  But unless they come up with cars that burn that fuel not likely.


  2. Natural gas vehicles are popular in Wyoming where there is cheap fuel now.   The price of natural gas has tripled in the last few years too though.   If we ever start using ice hydrites from deep water sources the price should go down.   Hybrids are a fad.   My Geo storm used to get better mileage than most hybrids do now.

  3. Do not worry about the environment it is OK. The whole Global Warming scam is what is driving it.

  4. "The oil companies fund the environmentalists. They're both on the same side of wanting to restrict supply,"

    "When the oil companies are able to make hundreds of billions of dollars in profit, they're not going to come along and tell the American people that oil is abundant, that we are never going to run out of it, that we're finding increasing resources."

  5. no, i think it has nothing to do with suet.

  6. The cost increase in natural gas prequels the increase in gasoline.  The reason was power industry deregulation in the mid-90s.  The deregulation allowed almost anyone to operate a small generator to supply power to the grid.  The "small generators" were almost exclusively fired by natural gas because:

    they trigger the lowest level of regulatory interest due to emissions and environmental impact; they can start/stop at will to pick up slack during high demand peaks; and the hardware was fairly cheap.

    Natural gas is typically a small fraction of the total hydrocarbon amount in a well field.  "Frac'ing" hydrocarbons is usually pretty energy intensive, making manufactured natural gas more expensive.  

    Given the many homes use natural gas, if many people converted to CNG for automobile fuel, some VERY VERY ugly things could happen.  Consider how heating costs go up during extended cold-snaps in the mid-west and northeast US.  

    Instead, CNG should be reserved for those vehicles that derive the best benefits from it.  An example would be buses that operate in dense cities.

    You think gasoline prices can be bad, take a look at some of the below links and consider your fillup from one month to the next be increase by 4-fold.  This would be far worse if many people started using CNG vehicles.

  7. well let me tell you what I have done. I spent about $5000 to get a kit to make my own fuel if you don't understand I mean I make biodiesel it is 100% environment safe you use waste vegetable oil some methanol and lye pellets and not to long after you go though the process you got useable biodiesel and you can use it in any diesel truck without having to convert it or you spend not to much money and convert your car to run on it. with the system I have I can make 120gallons of useable biodiesel a day. so if you look at it you make all your moeny back in no time if you sell it to frineds and family and make a buck or two. to make the bio diesel is about $0.50 to $1.00 to make and if you sell it for say $3 to $3.50 you make a profit of anywhere from $2.00 to $2.50. anyquestion on that please email me at williamsondebra@yahoo.com

  8. If you are wondering about an alternative fuel besides electricity, it is already evident that ethanol is in use in several countries.  It is not economic though - it takes too much corn to make enough fuel to be worth it.  I say stick with the hybrids and that should be a great alterantive to just gas.  I just saw in a consumer reports magazine that hybrids pricing are already going down, some to about low $20k.

  9. yes

  10. Not really, as there are not enough Alt. fuel stations to handle a big demand.

    The best solution is to utilize public transit and hope the petroleum industry gets some serious regulations instituted.

  11. Petrol ("gas") is $8 a gallon in the U.K and rising, but I don't know anybody who has converted to LPG yet - though it is on sale at many fuel stations. I understand it costs about $2,000 to convert a petrol car to LPG.

  12. I don't think that suet will be used as an automotive fuel anytime soon...unless you want to consider used deep-fryer fat from restaurants as suet.  In any case, natural gas isn't a good alternative, because the eco-terrorists won't let us go after new sources of that, either.

  13. Well you'd think if it was going to go up, it would have already. Gas at Flying J in Springville UT is 3.57 for regular, 4.03 for Diesel, and 0.62 for natural gas. Or at least thats what it was a few hours ago.

  14. natural gas will go 'way up this winter, if not sooner.

  15. I believe so, since people have become more aware of the enviroment, there will be an increase in want for the natural gas. Obviously, the NG (natural gas) corporate owners will take advantage and increase prices but never above the price of gasoline.

    Yor right, not everyone can afford a hydrid vehicle because their prices are absurd. So plp will resort to buyin used vehicles, therefore increasing their values as well. So, to answer your question, natural gas will follow suet right after gasoline once it being wanted by the public to an extent that its price will be increased.

  16. You're talking about an LP conversion kit.  They can range in cost from $1500 to over $2500 depending on your vehicle.  They DO WORK GREAT and right now, LP is about $1.70 where I'm at.  Only drawback is you'll need your own tank and pump to fill your vehicle.  You're not going to get the local LP company to fill up your 30 gal. tank.  Used tanks (500 or 1000 gal) are ~ $1.00 per gallon...500 gal. tank (used) = $500, etc.   LP will remain lower than gas for awhile yet.  Possibly even long enough to justify this expense.

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