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Women: are men in this GWS forum really what the majority of grown men are like out there?

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Those who believe women are the underlings, who believe the child is the man's, who don't favor equality in sports, who would never consider letting the women keep her last name or taking the woman's, who are just plain old sexist? If so I guess I'll never get married then!

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  1. In my experience, most of the men I've met have not been like some of the men here.

    But I have met many women like some in this section.


  2. maybe to a certain extant,but yeah the ones who come around here to me at least seem to be insecure about the masculinity or real low on the social totem pole. A certain 'guy',whom goes by the name Jackal is a prime example of this. as they hate women because

    a) they can't any, or at least the ones they always long for

    b) most other men look down upon them as being not man enough to be taken seriously,so they decide to take it out on women,due to fustration with themselves,Am I right on this,Jackal!

  3. lol no they arnt...they are by far the minority.

  4. Just reading these ideologies without seeing the person is really weak. You cannot get a sense of what is out there until you've been out there.

    1] are women are underlings? In my experiences when a woman acts out, lacks confidence, enables a man to control her, won't set boundaries for her children, or her relationship and lacks responsibility for self...then she will be looked at as an underling.

    2] the child is the man's...All mothers are not good and all dads are not bad. Societal and Judicially the child is best served when they are with the mother. A father can be just as parentally responsible. Remember that a woman chooses to be a mother, a man becomes a dad. I think that a lot of men are stepping up to claim their children because the motive behind a woman choice to be a mother is not always a proper one. So her attitude towards motherhood is warped.

    3] If the woman can compete and is serious about her chosen sport...let her play.

    4] last name issue...Today's woman has already decide to keep her last name, hence all the hyphened last names.

    5] plain old sexist...There are roles to play and there is a thing call a code of ethics or an order to things. We all remember that '50 - 50' concept. That don't work. And to compromise means to buck one's own standards. There has to be a 100 percent effort from each party. If a woman communicates properly and does the little things, she'd be surprised at what her expectations bring.

  5. Isn't the slanted nature of your generalization just as sexist? If all you see are the negatives then maybe you really shouldn't get married, stay in your mental box where your convictions will always hold water. Save a man the torment, stay single and childless please.

    We don't deserve you, you're just too good for us.

    EDIT: The poster above me explicated it all for you. Perfect Answer to what you were already looking for.

  6. In your real life, you will encounter many men who believe in equality and sharing life's experiences and many who think there should be a rigid set of rules of who does what.

    In this forum, it is difficult to distinguish who is really male, who is just trying to get a reaction and who truly believes that life should have a set of uncompromising gender rules.

    Don't let it stop you from exploring your options!

  7. No way! I find that many of the men in this forum are nice(even if they do have differing opinions than mine) and only a slim few are truly sexist. The rest are just annoying trolls.

    This forum in general is not a great example about how many men and women are in person.

  8. Speak to men.

    You'll see that many are sick of women getting an automatic leg-up in society.

    There is no such thing as "equality" in sports between men and women because men and women are not "equal" in sports and do not watch or care about sports "equally."

    That's the false assumptions of title IX instituted by feminists that try to pretend women play sports and watch sports with the same frequency as men.

    Men (and women) fight Title IX due to the fact that men's teams are terminated when there aren't "equal" numbers of women to play that sport.

    Rather than come up with a solution that's fair to both men and women, the ridiculous scrapping of men's teams is what the feminists came up with.

    If the "child" has no ties with the man, then there should be no ties with the man's wallet then, eh?   Cool, we agree on that.

  9. A lot of the posts from men and some women on here make me deeply sad.

    The ignorance of feminism; the eagerness to deny human rights to women; the lack of empathy, concern or appreciation for the human condition - I see so many writing from deep hatred and ignorance that it makes my heart heavy and sometimes I think it's just not worth bothering to respond anymore.

    However, every so often a poster comes along and restores some faith. They then remind me of all the good people I know in RL - I refer primarily to men - and it helps remind me that not all men are really like many of the posters here.

    For the ones here now taking you to task - I suggest they go read the endless stream of woman hating questions (rants) and posts and make an effort to go correct some of those as well... but they won't eh; because they agree with them and are only too delighted to find something in your question to attack and criticize.  The injustice of it makes me want to hurl.

  10. True, feminism has become just another word for sexism against men. And the people who call for "special respect" (i.e. special preference and privilege) for women are just as guilty.

    But the question itself is a total generalisation. And a very slanted and misandric generalisation at that.

  11. I hope so...  because it seem like many men in section don't take any BS from women(especially the feminists one).  There should be more men like that out there IMO.

    :-P

  12. You don't know what gender anyone is here until you meet them in person.

  13. There are a few men on here who will stand up for women's rights (in their defense).  

    Honestly, the more educated a man is, the more likely he is to be rational, open minded, and respectful of women.  Just in my experience!

    EDIT:

    Hey Hey Hey Rebal Man...I defended the few men on here who stand up for women's rights!  You have to admit a lot of men come here strictly to attack women.  Not all posters, just a lot!  

    Let it be known, there are men on this site who stand up for women's rights.  It is rare but they are here and I, for one, am thankful for them.

  14. Nope. I think the majority might hold some sexist values pounded into them by their fathers, but for the most part I don't believe they are like this in real life.

    That is, if they want to HAVE children they aren't like this in real life. :)

  15. Yes.

  16. Compared with, say, our world leaders right now and what they are doing wrong and violent in the world, including war, torture, plunder, fighting, lying and enslaving us with unnecessary recessions and rising food and gas prices, I actually prefer the company of the men here with whom I participate in wonderful meetings-of-the-minds about human rights.  I haven't heard any men in real life lately talk at all about human rights and MEAN it like the men do here.  And, by reading the links and stuff, the guys here, even young ones, are growing a brain and it's such a pleasure to see them grow steadier and more reasonable and meaningful to engage with intellectually.

    I am here because although some of the men here may be sexist and ignorant and pee standing up and have bigger brains than women and watch too much TV and therefore grow tapioca for brains and like REALLY need to lose their virginities, these guys CHOOSE to be here with these ladies, young and old.  I'm one of the old ones.   We're intrigued with each other.  That's good.  And, everyone's asking questions here.  That's sooooooo much better than most places in the world where everyone's soooooooo convinced they have all the answers.  

    Young guys today have NOTHING in place in real life for meaningful social / political debates like what is happening here among people of ALL ages and socio-economic backgrounds and religions and places in the world.  Think about it! This is seriously a major happening or construct because such a fully truly democratic gathering of people to discuss human rights has NEVER happened before.  I can only imagine how much their participation here must be conditioning their minds and consciences to become far better men than guys who AREN'T doing this, that's for sure. They sure have sharpened MY mind.  And, really, only one of them wants to knock my teeth out right now.  I think in real life there may be more people who would harm me than that.

  17. h**l no......most guys dont spend their time sit around insulting women behind the anonymity of the internet, these guys are jaded cowards

  18. my husband is very respectful to me and to all women. he supports my career adn sees me as an equal. i wouldnt want to keep my name though i want the same name as my husband and my children. i prefer his to mine. he is even staying at home as a SAHD at the moment with our young daughter.

  19. NO!  

    Thank god.

  20. In my state, I'm going to say that the majority are.  (However, I suppose there is a big difference between sexists and incredibly lazy people who would rather have people do everything for them, ie "make me a sammich"/"get me a beer"/ "shut up I'm watching the game"/etc.)  Fortunately, I also know many individuals that have similar opinions to my own, and I'm lucky enough to be in a great relationship with one, too.

  21. I'm not a woman, but from what I've seen here, it's the nature of Y!A that the various trolls and haters flock to the forums whose topic is "people they hate".  So you get misogynists in the GWS forum and anti-Semites in the Israel forum.   I haven't been to the food forums, but I bet you'd get anorexics.

  22. No, most men in the real world are not 13 :-)

    Rebel Man - the question was about all the men in here - if the question was 'what do you think of Rebel Man' I'm sure the answers would be more complimentary.  Likewise, when you talk about feminists, you usually say 'most feminists' - this is also a stereotype that depresses me, and makes me think what's the point, why bother, but I remind myself that you are not talking about me personally - and you should remember that we are not talking about you personally :-)

    Rebel Man - was I stereotyping, or was I explaining some of the extreme answers we see?  I have 2 people emailing me who are in their young teens, if you have a list of the ages of men in the category, I would be interested to see it - my impression is that most are very young and I'm not going to apologise for saying that :-)

  23. No, thank the goddess. GWS attracts disgruntled misogynists like flies to roadkill.
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