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Would the concept of feeling manly or womanly slowly abolish once we move towards a more genderless society?

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If so, how would you feel about it?

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  1. Isn't 'feeling' manly or womanly a matter of biology? If it wasn;t even transsexuals wouldn't feel the need to behave differently and ultimately complete the alteration of their biology completely.  Behaving exaggeratedly male or female is a societal construct maybe, but division between sexes (which is really what lies at the bottom of so-called gender) is a biological one.


  2. Hmmm, with unisex clothes, Title IX rulings and nonchalant attitudes of so many young people about so many things, it is possible for the concept to be less important, thereby heading to abolishment.

    However, there's the football jocks and the cute cheerleaders that get primetime viewing advocating the concept, so, probably not,  

    I don't see future generations giving up the limelight of becoming stars who enjoy fame.

    But, then, again, there will be so many people on this planet that fame will be short lived as we see today, compared to the classic movie stars of the past and the singers of yesteryear.

  3. Yes, thats exactly what will happen. We will feel guilty about feeling manly or womenly at first. Then it will become a misdemeanor. Even later, after research, it will officially become a mental disorder. They will prescribe you a genderless pill that will make you a senseless robot who is only good for work, work, and work. Thats the ultimate feminist conspiracy.

  4. Who says we are moving towards a genderless society?

  5. We aren't moving towards a genderless society and never will (so long as we're human beings). Socialisation only reflects a society's understanding of really-existing differences between men and women. Of course, values change over time but they are not infinitely flexible - they are constrained by the boundaries of biology. Men and women are hormonally different and so certain behaviours (e.g. violence) will always be more readily elicited in men than women and vice versa.

  6. You are not going to change Human biology that has evolved over tens of thousands of years with some absurd Social Experiment of 40 years. The evidence of our current culture points to the reality that your so called Genderless society is anything but. Women are reasserting themselves and showing preference to the Gender roles of the 1950s. Women are choosing to be stay at home moms.

    The Daughter of Alice Walker of the Color Purple being a vocal one who has written a book about it. She loves being a Mother. Her own Mother is a Feminist Icon. Feminism is a failure. It is promoting a Life script contrary to our biology.

    Women who follow it are breeding themselves out of the gene pool. In other words they are not having children. And cultures that embrace Feminism are dying. While those who solidly reject it are growing. It is a biological dead end. Much Like the Shaker Religion was.

  7. Yes. People would feel like themselves without assigning s*x to elements of their personality. If this happened for good, I'd feel great.

  8. Why on Earth should we look at androgyny as a goal, let alone a worthwhile goal?

    Men must have every right to be men, in whatever expression an individual wants for themselves.

    Women have the same right to be women, also with their distinctive expression.

    Kankrum: some interesting points there RE: dead end society.  True about the Shakers as well: they "unbred" themselves out of existence....

    There is no way that socialisation to engineer this (it sounds like some sort of far left wing PC ideology to me) would work, and it ignores essential biology.

  9. Absolutely not. We have had these feelings for thousands of years, and just because society may dampen them at times, they lie just beneath the surface. Under the optimal conditions, these feelings will reappear. We may claim to be civilized and more advanced than our ancestors, but the fact is we are no different from people who lived a thousand years ago in terms of our life desires.

  10. I don't think we are ever going to move towards a more genderless society.

    The concept of feeling manly or womanly is always going to be with us.

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