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Would you abord the baby??

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Ok..me and my mother have been arguing! i feel that abortions are unacceptable unless the baby will be born dead or without a chance to live...she feels that if the baby is born: blind, with down syndrome, siamese twins...or any way that a childs life would be "seriously challenged".........i on the other hand feel that god does everything for a reason and as a soon to be special education teacher..i feel that blind is not the worse thing that could be thrown at you, and children with down syndrome are as beautiful and happy as any "normal" child? Please give me your feed back on either side of the issue?!? is it rite to abord a baby because you feel it will make their life more difficult

ps. i feel those of you who are worried about the childs life being more difficult are worried about making your own life more difficult!

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  1. that is awful! so your mother is saying that if the baby is not perfect, it has no reason to live? thats just awful! do  what you want


  2. Sorry, but no. You're 100% right; God does everything for a reason. I know of several "special" people who have really touched others' lives because of their "disability." I despise the fact that people have found yet another reason to kill "unwanted" children. Abortion is murder, no matter how you look at it. You can stand and deny the fact, but it's still true. Abortion kills a living human, and is never exceptable. In fact the only time that abortion is even "close to okay" is when the mother's life is in jeopardy due to the pregnancy. And I'm not talking social status; I mean that if the mother will die or be severely injuredif she goes through with the pregnancy, such as when the baby is growing in her fallopian tube.

    And being blind isn't so bad, and it's especially NOT a reason to kill an innocent being.

    God bless

  3. Not everything is as black and white as you would like to believe.  Apparently you have only been around high functioning disabled babies and children....  there are some *VERY* serious genetic disorders out there.  More serious than you can even imagine because these children don't live.  They suffer sometimes just moments, sometimes for several years, but they always are in pain and they always die.  Sometimes loving your child means ending the pain.  Sometimes it means ending the pain before it begins.  If you need more insight then you need to speak with a genetic counselor who can tell you some of the things that he sees.

  4. I agree with you completely.  I beileve all life is a gift from God.

  5. you are very right! kids with special needs are exactly that, special. they are better than us but we can't see that because the majority of the world are just 'normal.' in my opinion, the only way abortion could be necessary is if it was rape and/or inscest. adoption is always a wonderful alternative for abortion.

  6. Thank God the doctors didn't find anything wrong with you while she was pregnant!

  7. No, I would never abort my a baby.  The only way I would ever consider it is if the doctors told me that the baby was deformed, or very ill, or something was terribly wrong with the baby meaning it was not developing right etc.  Other than that, I would never do such a thing.  My thing is I am on birth control, because I dont want to just end up pregnant.....that is what birth control is for.  Abortion should only be legal for certain very limited circumstances.  I agree with you.

  8. just because u r born handicapped does not mean u shouldnt be given a chance to live. there r absolutley NO reasons a person should have an abortion. so u decided to have s*x and well u got pregnant. if u r blessed wiht a handicapped child u should do as best as u can to raise it. adoption is always an apotion. if u feel tht u cannot raise ur child because it is handicapped or for any reason u should put the baby up for adoption so it has a chance to have a good life.  think of all the future genuises or presidents we r getting rid of with abortion.

    now one thing tht just breaks my heart is tht sometimes if a women cannot afford an abortion the women is given pills to have the baby born early, if by some miracle the baby survives the delivery it is put into a room to suffer and die. nurses are not allowed to touch these babies. tht is just plain cruel.

    i think u should ask ur mother tht if she was put into the postion of being handicapped would she have been happy if she had been aborted.

    i am a virgin and am saving it for marriage. there is no reason to have s*x before marriage it just leads to unwanted pregnancys and STDs.

    there are definitly dieseases and conditions tht are hard to live with. but ever person should be given the chance to fight there illness.

    o and btw im almost 13.

    i hope u and ur mother have good luck in understanding the concepts and cruelity of abortion.

  9. abort only when medically necessary, death to mother is likely while carrying infant. To abort a child they inject the heart with saline solution and break the bones and vacuum baby out. sick!

  10. I would only abort if the baby results from rape.

    NEVER AT ANY OTHER TIME WOULD I ABORT.

  11. I wouldn't abort for down syndrome or blindness, but there are a whole host of conditions I WOULD consider- depends on the child's quality of life.

    BTW, it's 'abort', not 'abord'- you used the wrong word entierely more than once!

  12. You really have no idea how bad some of these disabilities can be, do you?

    It's not about the child's life being difficult, it's about the child HAVING a life, not just being alive.

    What about Harlequin Icthyosis?

    Babies with that rarely live long, their skin is so thick it cannot fold.

    Their skin is open to the air, and you know how painful that is, they get fatal skin infetions, Their eyes are so delicate they are often born blind, no nose or ears..

    Usually, they canot touch anything, grasp anything, walk, or even breath easily because of the skin on their chest.

    You would bring a child into this world, just to endure pain and death?

    What about Farber disease?

    Basically, all their joints sieze up, they cannot swallow, or breathe, enlarged organs and neurological problems.

    All of these children die before the age of 2, and most before they're 6 months.

    Why would you wish a child to go through that?

    You wouldn't let a dog suffer that much, and I certainly would never want to be subjected to any of that. So why put a baby through all of those things?

    Abortion is a terrible thing, but you have no idea what women go through who decide that.

    You cannot know their circumstances, or what their child would have suffered.

    Until you have to make that desision, until YOU have to decide whether it is right to bring a child into this world, knowing that all the child will know is pain,

    then you have no right to lecture.

  13. Right on my friend!  I'm so glad that you understand this.  It's sad that your mother doesn't.  I wish there were more people like you around, especially in the courts.  Maybe then we could overturn Roe V Wade and end the government sanctioned infanticide they call "assisted abortion".  

    Your "ps" is right on target too.  It's all about the self centered should-have been mother and her family and not the baby when it comes to the excuse of trying to prevent the child from having a "difficult life".

  14. Never abort...i would never do that..

    doesnt she see that you will resent her for this one day?

    this will be a burden on your shoulders if you haev this abortion...you will think about it everday of your life...dont do it..at least adopt this child to a loving couple who cant have kids

  15. There are certain disabilities that are horrible to live with. Blind or anything you mentioned not being one of them.  Some cause so much pain the children ask to die. For that I would abort. Otherwise, you're right God does do things for a reason including making abortion an actual thing you can do.

  16. ABORTION IS MURDER!! NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT! :o( I MEAN, COME ON!! THINK ABOUT IT!! WANT IF YOU WERE ABORTED?!? THAT CHILD HAS A RIGHT TO LIVE!! OR TRY TO LIVE!! NOBODY ACCEPT GOD HAS THE RIGHT TO END AN INNOCENT LIFE! ABORTION DOESN'T MAKE YOU "UN-PREGNANT" IT MAKES YOU THE MOTHER OF A DEAD BABY!! AND IT MAKES YOU A MURDERER! GIVE THE BABY UP FOR ADOPTION;o) THAT'S A MUCH BETTER WAY:o) CLICK ON THE LINKS BELOW, THEY WILL HELP YOU TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT!!

  17. you must think long term. i had my first child at 16 yrs. and it was very difficult. i lost all my formative years.

    i would not have a baby if i knew it would have to face those challenges. but you gotta choose for yourself.

  18. I'm 16 years old and I don't believe that it is ever right to abord a baby have you ever told your mom how that is done in case you didn't know there are three ways one way is pouring salt on the baby and burning it to death the second way is to use like a sweeper type thing that sucks and jerks the baby around and kills it the third way is to use pliers like things on the baby's skull they then open them and it cracks the baby's skull open I hope this helps you convince your mom that abortion is never okay

  19. I am a 23 year old mother of two and possible pregnant with baby number 3 (waiting for test results, blood test to confirm)... I never really thought about abortion but I knew from the time I was pregnant with my son 5 years ago that Abortion was not an option for me because I was mature enough to have s*x. I feel that abortion is WRONG! There might be circumstances that would cause a person to abort, for example no fetal heartbeat. A friend of my husband's was pregnant, at her 4 month appointment she was told there was no fetal heartbeat and she could carry on with the pregnancy to see if her body would abort on its own or to have an abortion/ D&C. If I had a medical issue that would either kill me or my unborn child wouldn't make it I would abort, for the simple fact that I have two children at home who need me. Yes I would be hurting inside but I don't want my son and daughter to lose me! But just because a child is blind, or has a deformity is not a reason to abort a pregnancy. God only blesses you with things that he knows you can handle.

  20. I agree with you 100%, not your mother.  Amen on the "p.s."!

  21. As a fellow special education advocate, I strongly agree that a child should live. Actually I heard something recently that kind of stuck... a person who is disabled is more spiritually advanced than the rest of us, and are simply put here on earth to enlighten the rest of us who are less advanced. I also feel that your ps is accurate. If you spend any amount of time with a special child, you would know they are just as happy if not more so than the rest of us. They dont know they are disadvantaged. They dont know their lives are harder than others. As far as they are concerned their life is just the way to be and most are happy with that.

  22. NEVER abort a child god is COMPLETELY against abortion and if u ever want to go into abortion PLZ DONT because if u do go into abortion ur killing an innocent soul that never got a chance to live!

  23. I feel the only time that abortion is ok, in ANYWAY, is when the pregnancy risks the life of the mother! I don't even agree if it risks the life of the child because if you don't abort the baby even though the baby will probably die at birth you will never know if the baby would have or would have not made it! Where as if the pregnancy is risking the mothers life I think that this is something that the mother and father both should have to discuss and the abortion can not happen unless they both agree. I say this because usually a mother will spare her own life for her child, born or unborn! So I feel the father should have a say because if the mom passes away during delivery this leaves the father to raise the infant and if there are any other children already born on his own! So there for this is something that the father should have a say in!

    Just because a baby is born with a disability doesn't mean that their life is going to be any harder! If they know life in no other way other than how they were born how would they know if life is harder? Plus no one can gaurantee that life is harder for them, because no one has been born "normal" and also been reborn with a disability! Children with down syndrome are wondeful children, they are always SO happy and go lucky, life is no harder for them than it is for anyone else. Sure people make fun of them but what child isn't mad fun of at one point or another and they are so happy go lucky they don't seem to notice or care that they are being made fun of! People need to stop saying life is harder for disabled children, because that is putting a sterotype and a limit on their life, and no child should have a limit, that's what makes their lives harder!

  24. I'm with you...I mean if the baby was going to be stillborn orbe a 'vegetable' all their life then I can see why this could possibly be an option but as for everything else...there are many great people who had challenges and made it in life and even the ones who are not famous still live a fulfilling life. I don't see why a child being blind or having down syndrome would be such a concern that it would make someone abort the baby. Also saying that I agree that I think some people who feel that way are just seriously thinking of how much it would take from their lives to take care of a handicapped child.That is like saying if the baby had diabetes or came out with one extra finger or something is a wrothy candidate for abortion...no way! Also one more point I'd like to make...what is a"normal" child anymore? Everyone's expectations of normal have really sky rocketed into a superficial outlook.They should be paper thin,have long beautiful hair when born,and be the perfect heighth...its unfair to the baby to expect so much from them when they were not the ones who created themselves...so the people who expect this need to do something to themselves because they are the ones who created this baby!

    If everyone would see a baby for what it really is,then no matter what the disability is,they would be right there beside them guiding them through a cross walk when they can not see!

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