Would you consider Stop Loss just another way of saying draft?

Question

Would you consider Stop Loss just another way of saying draft?

Answer 1

Lady,

Pickels is 100% right. They are NOT lied to as the Marxist Liberal states. Standard liberal tactics - LIE! They know full well before they sign on the dotted line that you may be required to stay for extended periods of time beyond your enlistment.

Answer 2

Some people are really hung up on the "draft" that does not exist.  Stop-Loss is part of the contract you sign and that contract says you agree to so many years active duty and after that you are still obligated to be subject to recall or being placed back on active duty until the active plus recall time equals eight years.  No different then you signing a contract to work for a civilian company for a year and the company having an option to extend that contract for an additional time frame if they wish, many contract workers working on special projects for a business have contracts like that to allow the company to keep them longer then the original contract if something changes on the project or it is necessary to complete the contract project.  Another example of that is professional athletes who are signed for so many years and then have an "option" where the team can keep them for an additional number of years in the contract at the teams discretion.  So Stop-Loss is part of the contract peoplejoining the military sign and it is usually well explained that I know of and if some one does not know about it they have not been listening to the news for the last few years.

Answer 3

No, completely different in all regards; In World War II the National Guards and Reserve forces called up for service were in it 'for the duration' of the war.  Later in the Korean Conflict they used a point system to rotate out of the war zone and in Vietnam everybody active and reserve had to complete a mandatory 13 months (A year if you took your 30 days leave in the Southeast Asia theater of operations).

Whatever branch of the military you join you commit yourself to eight (it once was six) years of service, it is not secret small print and each recruiter is required by law to read the contract to each recruit to make sure they fully understand the terms.  If you take three years of active service you still owe your dear old Uncle Sam five years of some form of reserve service.  Give 4 actual then you're still on the hook for another 4 in the reserves.

Stop Loss applies mostly for the Active side of the house; If the major of a unit has served close to four years is it entirely fair of me to allow you to go with only three years service?  Normally if your unit is deployed for 16 months and you come up short some 12 months into that tour of duty, Stop Loss requires you to finish that tour with your unit and rotate back to the states with them.

Answer 4

Nope. Not at all. The Army stop losses a soldier that is already in the military for extra active duty time. It specifically states in their contract that the soldier or marine has a total obligation of 8 years of service. Only a naive fool would call it a lie. You signed the contract that specifically allows for this possibility. Stop letting Hollywood form your opinions.!!

Answer 5

thats exactly what it is . the solders are lied to and their choice is taken from them.  

Answer 6

If I understand stop loss, it's basically the Army's reneging on the terms of its contracts, so, no, they are different. I am one of those people who believes the draft would be a good idea, because it would make the war immediate to all those people who think it's someone else's problem.

Stop loss, on the other hand, just seems like more of the same kind of sneakiness and misrepresentation that are the hallmarks of the Bush administration in general.

You remember Bush... he's still president, though you don't hear much about him these days.  

Answer 7

Politically, it is probably more like just another way to NOT say draft.

The USA has been at war for a long time now. It seems a stretch for certain contract provisions that were meant to cover unforeseen emergencies to be used to support a planned, unnecessary war like the Iraq War year-in and year-out.

Answer 8

yup...hope it doesnt happen to me

Answer 9

No, they are completely different.

Answer 10

No, as anyone who has been in the military knows, when you take the oath they clearly state that you can be held for the duration of any conflict.  Also, that tho you may be signing for 4 years of active duty, you are committed for 4 years of inactive duty also.  That means that you are subject to immediate recall at the discretion of the DOD, the President or his appointed underling such as the Joint Chiefs et al.