Would you like an EU upperstate?

Question

We would be more powerful than America, but we would loose our culture?

Answer 1

Yes, we should create a united Europe, then build a vast European Global Empire.

Answer 2

Two things you others are overlooking.

1.  We can't even get NATO to function well.  And we are expected to get a plethora of autonomic countries to act as one, in the interest of everyone else? Ha!

2.     You are also ignoring the Muslim factor, which is slowly infiltrating every society with the ultimate goal of eliminating all competition, not coexisting with it.

And I'm surprised that all of you have this much to say, yet didn't  find the question interesting?

I thought it was worth a star.

You can afford to be gracious, folks.

Answer 3

Bring it on!

Your culture has already changed. Don't fear change! Shape it.

Answer 4

Did you mean superstate? and if so then the answer is no! The leaders of the EU all belong to countries who in the past have all at one time or another been either our allies, or our enemies. When they were allies,  such as the French at the time of the two world wars, they tended to leave us to fight their battles, and when they were our enemies they tried very hard to destroy us, eg the Spanish at the time of the Armada, and the French under Napoleon, and Germany during two world wars, so what chance have we of ever wholly trusting any of them? History shows that self reliance, and a tactical alliance is a better way forward. The EU set out to be a common market, to sell our goods to others, and to buy from them at a favourable price, even that proved too much for the French, and Germans, and they tried to shaft us economically at every turn, so how can an even closer political alliance benefit us? In any case the world is now an ever closer market, so it is more to our advantage to trade with all of it, and not just with Europe. We had a better relationship with our commonwealth, than we have ever enjoyed with our European neighbours, and asfor being as powerful as America, who needs it, we could enjoy a better relationship with all the world, if we were free to pick and choose, Switzerland and Norway have not suffered by not joining with the EU, and they are both economically and politically sounder than us at this moment in time.

Answer 5

As an American, all I can say is it seems you Europeans forget your history as it applies to today, The same argument for a stronger Europe was used by Hitler, Napoleon, Stalin and several other kings, emperors, potentates and dictators for thousands of years and you fought tooth and nail to stop them, yet today, you are willing to just lay down and give up all sovereignty to some group of people you never got to elect!!!.

  Loose your culture? You bet, can anybody tell me about Etruscan culture?  No, that's because they were taken over by a small city state that later became one of the most influential in Western civilization (Rome).

Answer 6

No thank you. One unified Europe have been attempted by the Romans and the n***s, and both ended in devastating failures. Why people would want to give up their independence I really don't know, but we should be able to cooperate with neighboring countries without having to form a federal union with them.

Answer 7

OK, I'm from the US so you might consider this 'competitive' but I don't give a d**n about that, frankly.

I consider the western world to be a bastion of individual rights based on the consent of the governed and I see that being lost through watering down the most protective of rights with the votes of those grateful to get any rights at all, and passive to allowing the political class to allocate all benefit of trade, immigration, etc.

I'm against an EU superstate as I am against an NAU or SPP etc.

I wish you the best.

And I liked traveling there a whole lot better when all the money was different and you could actually tell the difference when you drove across the border from one country to the next.

Answer 8

First off, we would not necessarily be more powerful than America. Even as a Federated States of Europe we would probably not have, or even seek to have, the military capacity of the US, nor would we have the Financial and business systems to combat US globalism.

We would lose our culture over time, but we (UK) have already thrown it away so that makes little difference. The British Culture was really epitomised by the attitudes prevalent in the 1950s; fair play, tolerance, self-discipline, respect for others and respect for authority. None of these survive as far as I can see.

Would I like a European Superstate? Up to about the mid nineties I would have said NO! Since then the political classes here have degenerated into demagoguery, i.e. pander to whatever prejudice or misconception is currently flavour of the day as espoused by media like The Sun and the Daily Mail and legislate it out of the headlines. Never mind that it dumps freedoms taken for granted for a thousand years or results in totally unnecessary red tape. And absolutely ignore any shred of common sense we might still have.

So, now I would say YES! We are no longer capable of running our own affairs.

Apart from all of that it is really inevitable anyway. China will almost certainly become a super-power in the next decade or two, absorbing most of the East into her sphere of influence. To balance this Europe will have to Federate while the USA will have to make sure that South America is firmly in her back pocket.

The really interesting question is what does Russia do? Who do they align with?