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Wouldnt the money we spend on the war be better off spending it at home?

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with 8.5 million unemployed, according to latest news break, gas and food going sky high, business closing, plants shutting down, foreclosures skyrocketing, wouldnt the trillions be better spent for americans instead of iraqis

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  1. yes.


  2. Of course,but if you are among the few who rule this nation now and wish to cash in your chips while the gettin' is good there's nothing like a juicy occupation/war to divert attention while the treasury is being looted.

  3. N O.....We need to establish juniors place in history first.  His "legacy" is of paramount importance there will be no denying him his "legacy'. over and out. As you were.

  4. Complex question.

    Money spent on the war does pour funds into the U.S. economy because it employs the industrial/military complex which employs millions of people.

    Not if you spent it on welfare, because that is a bottomless pit if the programs are like most programs that don't inspire people to create a life for themselves.

    You can spend billions on the millions of unemployed, but after you spend it they will still be unemployed. The question is how do you stimulate the economy and commerce? Pres. Bush is trying these tax cuts and tax rebates, to give Americans more spending money so that the economy is given a boost.

    The only money the Iraqi's get are aid subsidies. The money we spend on the military go to the our soldiers, their families, the munitions suppliers which is American industry which employs Americans. You, yourself, were once on the payroll of the United States military.

    Personally, I would much rather have it spent on alternative fuel production and research. That way the price of gas (not crude oil) but refinery gas would no longer be increasing the price of goods and the cost of living for American citizens. Green is the future. Decreasing wastefulness, SUV's, Hummers, and electricity generated by burning fossil fuels. Solar energy, wind energy, geo-thermal energy, hydrogen engines, fuel cells, ocean wave-energy, etc.

    The American dream is to own your own house, have a good job, you ar providing society with goods and services, and at the same time paying property and income tax to provide for community services, and raising a family, and having well-educated kids.  This was Bush's platform before 9/11, when a bunch of hateful fanatics crashed those airliners into those landmarks. Now everything is more expensive, gas, air travel, the war effort.

    All of this got triggered because of groups of fanatics who hate people with different religious beliefs, and people who are doing well financially, while their people are not.

  5. Yes. The money should be spent at home.

  6. yes!! enough said!! why don't you? run against obama? you have my vote!!

  7. Are you trying to bring common sense here, or what?

  8. I agree!!  Lets go one step farther and take all the money that we use on Illegals, and pay Americans to hunt down and escort them out of the US. We can also pay honest, hard working Americans (that are now unemployed) to patrolling and protect our borders,

  9. hi Mr mom, well said, yes it would,     blue

  10. h**l, yes.

  11. Not if we are all dead!!!!!

  12. The US has a 5 percent unemployment rate, which isn't bad. Some countries have unemployment rates in the 20-30% range!  Even with the war, Americans aren't hurting compared to some other people around the world. We need to clean up our mess, and that takes money.

  13. Well what do you expect our troops to fight with? potato guns?

    Cutting funding to the war means cutting our troops off from supplies that they need to I dunno SURVIVE?

  14. The No. 1 employer in the entire world is the United States of America Government.  Meaning the job loss has nothing to do with the war in Iraq (or Afghanistan, in case you forgot about them). If you MUST blame someone, start with all those uneducated persons who bought a house using an ARM. That caused the housing market to crash. That caused layoffs, etc.

    Further, people want to shop at Wal-Mart to buy cheap junk made in China. By buying foreign, you are putting Americans out of work. Ross Perot said if that Free Trade Act was passed you would hear the "giant sucking sound of jobs going south". He was right. The Libereal Congress and Liberal Supreme Court has brought millions of Illegals into this country. These Illegals send more than $40,000,000,000 ($40 BILLION) a year back home. Other immigrants, Filipinos, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, whoever from where ever, send an untold number of BILLIONS back home. This devalues the dollar, making gasoline more expensive. In case you haven't noticed, trucks move almost everything from Point A to Point B. If gasoline (including, of course, diesel) goes up, EVERYTHING goes up. Most businesses operate at less than 3% profit; if utilities, gasoline, freight, cost of goods, goes up, businesses go under.

    ALSO, IT ISN'T "TRILLIONS", only "BILLIONS"!

    If Americans are fed up with the situation, quit buying foreign made goods; don't let companies "outsource" to Indian, Russia, the Philippines. USE COMMON SENSE; don't buy a house with an adjustable rate mortgage. No sane or logical person would ever do that. Pi in the sky is just that: a phantasy.

    If you don't like the cost of gasoline, consider: I remember when it was 29.9 cents a gallon for ethyl. Today here it is $3.849. Yeah, that is a big increase. Milk used to be 10 cent a gallon delivered; coke, popcorn, candy 5 cents; movies 9 cents. When I was a freshman in college, a woman could have a baby for $50, doctor, medicine, a 5-day stay in the hospital included. When our youngest son was born, we paid $5,000 and my wife went home the next day.

    The point is, gasoline was, and still is, a bargain. But everyday, in my neighborhood, I see little kids riding around on those monster 4-wheel ATVs, running all over the neighborhood. They ride go-carts, golf carts, snowmobiles; most people make 5 - 6 trips a day (closest store is more than 5 MILES ONE WAY, and that is a military base facility, meaning MOST people don't shop there, but further away.

    POINT? Quit wasting gasoline and the price will go down.

    ANSWER TO THE SITUATION: Be informed, get educated, learn what is what and how things function and make informed choices. And quit wasting.

    Also:

    545 People

    By Charlie Reese --

    Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them. Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits? Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

    You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does. You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.

    You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does. You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does. You and I don't control monetary policy, The Federal Reserve Bank does.

    One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president and nine Supreme Court justices - 545 human beings out of the 300 million - are directly, legally, morally and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

    I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered but private central bank.

    I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.

    Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

    What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits.

    The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it. The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes.

    Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.

    It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts - of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people.

    When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

    If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

    If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

    If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ.

    If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.

    There are no insoluble government problems.

    Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power.

    Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

    Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible. They, and they alone, have the power. They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses - provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees.

    We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

    Charlie Reese is a former columnist of the Orlando Sentinel

  15. Yes exactly.... But then we wonder where Mr bushes intentions are.  Does he really have the American's best intersts at heart or does he care for something else...

  16. I agree, if we could only get the people in office to stand up for this country instead of sticking our noses in other countries business.  Maybe americans wouldnt be so hated.

  17. oh my god, YES.    remember voting down the children's insurance bill that would have given a health insurance blanket for all US kids because it COST TOO MUCH?  It was a measley 7 billion....in comparison to the BILLIONS WE'RE HEMORRHAGING on a monthly basis in iraq, it's just a drop in the bucket.

  18. i think so with the economy failing so badly  we should bring half of them home to take care of there families the government has enough stress as it is. or slowly take them out and make that country start fending for themselves. and plus emplyment  has gotton way to freakin high for my confort

  19. Sooo true! How about the millions of people who cannot afford to get health care and do all their medical at home, and the gov. keeps cutting the education budget! the list goes on.. bush should go fight in the war himself

  20. deffinatly!!!! who needs war!!!!!

       we could have loadza better stuff if it wasn't for the war!!

  21. Bush refused to sign the Kyoto agreement saying it would cost $300 billion dollars and wreak the economy, rather than put that money to use working toward a sustainable energy plan, he gave a tax break to those who bought Hummers and gas guzzlers SUV's, and blew a trillion in Iraq, talk about pick the wrong road, and then "stay the course" 8 years of spending foolishly is about to come due, and no one is going to like the bill, Europe is far ahead in renewable energy and that creates jobs, good paying jobs.

    tax cuts to the richest 1% they buy a few toys and the rest is in tax havens, put that money in the middle class and they will by goods and services that go directly into the economy, but pundits and spin miesters have convinced so many that, up is down and down is up, that most less educated Americans don't know what to think and just follow along behind who shouts the loudest. "The arts of power and it's minions are the same in all countries and in all ages. It marks it's victim; denounces it; and excites the public odium and the public hatred, to conceal it's own abuses and encroachments." ( Henry Clay, March 14, 1834 )

    "We need an energy bill that encourages consumption." G.W. Bush—Trenton, N.J., Sept. 23, 2002

  22. spend it on education, health care, stabilizing gas prices, spend it on feeding the hungry/homeless

  23. Well, yes, of course the money would be better spent here. What kind of answer are you looking for?

    It's like asking, "I'm in debt- should I take all of my money and blow it on hookers, crack, and booze?"

    There is much more to consider than to simply ask the question, one must investigate both the reasoning for the war, and the ultimate outcome.

  24. half an half.

  25. yes we need to support the average working Joe and created more jobs here

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