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Zeitgeist The Movie. What are your thoughts?

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  1. well, dont take our words for it, check out all sides of the issue, then get back with us~!!!


  2. It was very interesting and even if you think it's all a bunch of c**p it does make you stop and think--wait, what IS the truth? What if everything I was ever told was just a lie, a big scam? What the h**l do I believe anyway? What is "truth"? The very concept of truth is just something humanity invented!

    To doubt is to be human. This documentary was very factual. I have listened to all sorts of sides to 9/11 and the government and world affairs and I'm leaning towards the side many consider "crazy conspiracy theorists."

    If Zeitgeist is indeed accurate, the government... or rather, the bankers, seem like a psychopathic machine. Psychopaths feel no regret or remorse, are incapable of empathy and love, have no sense of right and wrong. All they know is what they want. And they are goddamn good at getting it. People are insulted when others doubt them and defend for their psychopaths they so cling to yet only bring their demise. I know many people who don't even want to HEAR the word "conspiracy" and get upset by this idea that everything they know could be a lie. They don't WANT to wake up. They refuse to even listen to the other side of things! You don't have to agree, but at least us out!

    Not saying that our government is run by psychopaths, I just find this sort of thing interesting... random speculation.

    Anyway, it was a very intriguing and daring film. Many would be appalled listening to it--that's what it's supposed to do. Shock you. Put yourself out of your comfort zone. Pop the safe bubble you so depend on. Open your eyes a little.

  3. All things contain some truth . It dose give pause for thought .

  4. I liked it.

    It succeeds at what they set out for it to do.  That is, make people think more critically of our government and religious leaders.  There are a lot of truths within this movie.

  5. I believe about 90% of it.

  6. This is better... ; )

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skX8HLf01...

  7. Zeitgeist is entertainment designed to wake you up. It contains errors and because of that, some people mistakenly dismiss the entire film. As entertainment, it seems silly that so much effort goes into "debunking" it. If merely "conspiracy theory", why not just ignore it? People take the mistakes in Zeitgeist far too seriously. Can you think of any other entertainment film subjected to such a high degree of scrutiny for its factual correctness?

    The producer seems to assert that Christianity is merely an agent of social control. I disagree but respect his freedom of speech. There are many web sites debunking Part One. Do a Google search for "Zeitgeist Christianity".

    The message I get from Part 1 is that people in positions of power and influence are lying and attempting to control us. It wasn't necessary to attack Christianity to make that point (thereby insulting the majority of people of the free world). One need not look further than the corporate-controlled main stream media to find an agent of social control. If any of the topics in Zeitgeist Parts Two and Three are new to you, the reason for that is media censorship and brainwashing. The main stream media has become a propaganda machine for government and corporate interests. For more about that, see my answer here:-

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    Because of Zeitgeist's attack on Christianity, I suspect the movie may be a trojan horse. See my answer here:-

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    Re Parts Two and Three:  9/11 and New World Order (global government) are connected. Zeitgeist doesn’t cover that extensively. If I were the producer, I would have placed greater emphasis on the Council on Foreign Relations and how globalist organizations control foreign policy. See:-

    http://faculty.maxwell.syr.edu/merupert/...

    http://presidentialcandidates.wetpaint.c...

    Read from the CFR's web site and its publications (including North American integration) and connect the dots. It is patently obvious that CFR wants global government.

    http://www.cfr.org/

    For more insight, research globalist David Rockefeller (Honorary Chairman of the CFR and co-founder of the Trilateral Commission). New World Order is not about some cabal of Satanists plotting to control the world. It is elites like Rockefeller pressing for one-world socialist government controlled by elites and corporations. They are well on their way to success. The main stream media stays mum because the media is owned and controlled by CFR members and people & corporations that profit from globalization, war, and the war on terror.

    There are so many theories about new world order that people overlook what is happening NOW.  That is, gradual implementation of global government and dismantling of national sovereignty. There is more to say here about new world order. See my answer here:-

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    RE 9/11:  9/11 was either a false flag or it was exploited like one. If the government's official excuse that air defense and intelligence failures were honest mistakes, then why were people at the top not held accountable? If the government was a corporation, heads would have rolled and there would have been mass-firings, including the CEO. That did not happen after 9/11. Rather, people responsible for "mistakes" were promoted. The first order of business should have been addressing the reason for the failures and firing many people. Instead, the government chose to start the gradual and on-going undermining of the Constitution and creation of a surveillance state in America.

    The Constitution and Bill of Rights are major impediments to the global government agenda. An excuse was needed to begin the dismantling thereof, and 9/11 provided the perfect excuse. How convenient was it that a single event also served (indirectly) to induce us to accept illegal war?

    There is a great deal of compelling evidence for government foreknowledge and complicity in the 9/11 attacks. Keep in mind that if the government was involved, it was not "the government". Rather, it was criminal elements inside the government and their associates outside the government. Most members of the government were honestly deceived, threatened into silence, or frightened into self-censorship. The corporate main stream media protects the criminals by muzzling the 9/11 story and painting anyone questioning it as a radical moron so as to divide the people and discourage any challenge to the official story.

    As 9/11 kicked the new world order agenda into high gear, it is more fruitful to focus 9/11 learning on "why" and "who benefited" rather than the "how was it done". We may never know how it was done because much of the evidence was illegally destroyed. However, a clear picture is emerging as to who benefits and why it was exploited. To inspire thought about that, research the neo-conservative think tank "Project for a New American Century" and its members' associations with the Bush Administration. Read their "manifesto" describing their geopolitical aspirations. It seems eerily familiar to what we see happening now.

    Also watch Mike Ruppert's film about geopolitics, criminality in government, evidence of foreknowledge and exploitation of 9/11:-

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    Ruppert only briefly connects the dots to discuss global government then the film ends abruptly. Watch for that, otherwise you may mistakenly interpret his message as meaning the wars are merely about peak oil.  Ruppert also discusses Zbigniew Brzezinski, foreign policy adviser to Obama. Brzezinski's ideology is eerily familiar to that of PNAC. Both Brzezinski and PNAC were prophetic about the need for a false flag operation to kick off the war plans. Look up Brzezinski's connectios to PNAC members, CFR and Rockefeller.

    See also this taped interview of Ruppert speaking about evidence for complicity.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fy9JCDchk...

    It is important to know the flaws of the 9/11 Commission and its investigation. See the speeches of David Ray Griffin's:-

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    To assist with analyzing the 9/11 Commission Report, use the report mirror at "911 Research" site. The mirror addresses the problem that the official report online is not presented in a way easy to evaluate (hmm). The mirror ties it all together with hyperlinks and commentary to note contradictions and omissions.

    Main page - http://911research.wtc7.net/post911/comm...

    Report Mirror - http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/comm...

    The Families of victims of 9/11 documented their frustrations with the 9/11 Commission in their film:-

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    Don't buy the myth that is just kids, kooks, and hippies questioning the official account of 9/11. There are high profile people questioning 9/11.  See this list for a sampling:-

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/

    Even some 9/11 Commissioners have spoken publicly about obstruction to their investigation. Surprisingly, that story was covered by main stream media (a rarity for anything that questions the official account of 9/11). See:-

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/0...

    I have an opinion about the Zeitgeist's take on the Federal Reserve and I keep that opinion to myself because, quite frankly, I wish to stay alive.

    If you do your own research, be careful what you read. There are staged government disinformation sites all over the web, designed to throw you off the trail. They discredit the truth movement by putting out ridiculous theories that are easily debunked (e.g. the "no planes theory" for 9/11). There are also paid agents all over the internet posing as users in forums like this one. Generally, if people presenting a web site are not willing to be named (and you cannot verify that they are real people), you might confirm what you read there from sites where owners do disclose who they are. Some of my Yahoo contacts discussed that issue recently when one of them noticed a suspected 9/11 disinformation site. See:-

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...

    For online 9/11 research, you might start with this well-sourced site:-

    http://911research.wtc7.net/

    Arab terrorism is real.  The terrorists hate us because of our foreign policy, not because of our freedom. Our chances of being injured from terrorism are less than being struck by lightning. Despite shoddy port and border security, we have not been attacked here since 2001. Hmm. Why then is dismantling civil liberties more important than securing borders and ports? For ports, the reason is there is no real threat. For borders, the reason is the criminals pulling the strings in government WANT illegal immigration. Dissolving borders is necessary for North American union and later for new world order. That political parties blame each other for failing on illegal immigration is just pageantry to forestall action. Both sides want illegal immigration because both sides have been hijacked by globalist interests.

    We are slipping into tyranny. That is the message to be taken from Zeitgeist.

  8. It gives "Loose Change" a challenge for the biggest pile of c**p on the internet.  It is stuff like that that keeps idiots like Alex Jones and Jim Marrs in business.

  9. "Propaganda is propaganda...

    no matter in what guise it comes."

    i am (not) saying that it is propaganda...

    but it might be.

    [3:19]

    "The word of God is not propaganda... John 17:17"

    SubhanAllahi wa biHamdihi.

    believe what ye will...

    but better to take refuge in the truth.

    edit: "The real question is... 'Does it stand the test of truth?'"

    2 Corinthians 5:17, 5:7 et al.

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