"Yes, she's ambitious ... but aren't we all?"?

Question

"She's pushy beyond belief. Behind her big superficial smile she can be a really aggressive, manipulative monster who always gets what she wants"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=16202006&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=attractive--ambitious-and-very-scary--tv-newsreader-kate-silverton-is-the---kaplinsky-klone--name_page.html

Do women have to be more cunning and ruthless than men to succeed in the workplace?

Answer 1

There is no need to be cunning or ruthless. If you want the spotlight and front page coverage, sure, be as ruthless and manipulative as you like, but if you want success, there's nothing like hard work, patience and determination. A heart in the right place helps.

For a woman to be successful, she has to learn how to work with men rather than learn how to work against them. Men are partners, not competition. Any soccer club first learns how to play together, and then plays against other teams. And it considers the whole opponent as a team to beat, not a single player as one to overcome. Likewise, compete with companies, not with men.

If she expects people to adjust to ALL her needs without her doing anything, her workplace adventure could be a very short one. Manipulative monsters get no respect, and will have no friends.

I find the most successful men and women are anything but cunning and ruthless. Successful people are not underworld Mafia lords.

Answer 2

No, they don't have to be, but when they are, they are judged more harshly than their male counterparts, because women are not "supposed to"  behave that way.

Answer 3

No, and we aren't.  Some people just take it that way doe to their old fashioned view of women in power.  Cunning-ruthless?  Hey, Men don't call men that-those are just words used by a man to describe his inability to be where a successful woman is-commonly called an excuse!!!

Answer 4

There are horrible, slimy, manipulative, egotistic, self-centred and ambitious men AND women.

ap Celtish

Son of Celtish of the House of Ish

Answer 5

No, they don't.  Many believe that they do, and buy into the notion that they have to be 'tougher' to be taken seriously.  But in truth, they are taken LESS seriously.  

Golden rules ALWAYS apply - for both men and women.  And any time I see a ball buster in business, I realize that I am looking at a horribly misguided, immature and self conscious individual.

Answer 6

Since the behavior sited in the article has always been seen as acceptable by alpha- males I don't see what the point was in writing it.  Why all these double standards?  It's manipulative when a woman does it but just business" when one of us does?  Think about that one for a while after you thumb this answer down.

Answer 7

sounds like a modern day feminist or a female sociopath.

Answer 8

Not everyone is ambitious. And according to this article this woman will stop at nothing to obtain her desires. Maybe she decided instead of sleeping her way to the top she would actually work her way up on 2 standing legs. Good for her!

Answer 9

No, but there are more obstacles confronting them than confront white males.

Answer 10

when a woman is ambitious, she makes the news...

Answer 11

Don't kid yourself. Nothing is more ruthless then a lot of men by nature. We need laws to keep you guys in check, not all but a lot.  Look at all the serial killers, rapist, and pedophiles out there. Most of them are male, and men are better? More fit? More fit for what? Alls fair in the workplace. Doing what you have to to keep up in a screwy world. Men and women alike.

Answer 12

Such women only need to exhibit such behaviour to FEEL a sense of "recognition" in the workplace.  The quality of one's work is the ultimate determinant of one's worth and status.  This sort of "cunning and ruthless" behaviour is a sign of frustration rather than character strength.  The genuinely successful women who obtained success on their own have done it in a dignified way, via sheer hard work and determination and never needed to be in the spotlight or patted on the back for their brilliant achievements.  Success is its own reward.

You'll never hear this from the post-modern feminist.  It'll all be about how much "harder" the successful women had to work to achieve results in the post-modern era; it's laughable, frankly.