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"Zeitgeist" religious and political film

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Anybody out there seen this movie? I watched it last night...way bad idea....now I can't rest peacefully. Just wondering what you all thought of it?

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  1. You are behind the curve like about 8 months, you have alot of catching up to do.  Good for us that Oklahoma just told the feds to p**s off.  Let them know the Constitution says what laws they can pass and all others are up to the states.  View my last question.  Go Oklahoma!  The rest need to follow suite.  NOW!


  2. Generally, I liked the whole Idea of spicing up things so people would watch the movie, and really start thinking about propaganda and such.

    However, I don't really appreciate the tone  with which the audience was approached (I felt like they were telling me: Heey, stupid, this is how they brainwash you), and I certainly know that some of the things were just spiced-up bullshit, so the brainwashed would wake up from their sleep.

    It's definitely a movie I wouldn't brag that I've seen, but I wouldn't deny that I've seen it, either.  

  3. I heard it's an extremely controversial documentary that calls for vigilance and the search for truth. I have not yet seen this 2007 film but it sounds very interesting.

    Starring, Osama Bin Laden, George W. Bush and Adolf Hitler

    Not exactly a 'comedy', eh?

    You can read about it at ::

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1166827/

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  4. not sure about the religious part but the rest of it seems about right. at least your smart enough to worry about whether it's true or not, can't say that about a lot of people on here

  5. I think it's a good movie in the fact that it will get some people to change they way they think about believing everything that comes from the government. Even if not everything presented is accurate, or correct it will get some people to at least start looking into things.

    I don't like to think of myself as a conspiracy theorist, but in the last six months or so I've come across Zeitgeist, and other movies that have changed the way I react to things going on in here in the US and the world.

    Did you know in 1993 WTC 1 was bombed and the FBI knew it was going to happen but did nothing to stop it. They had an informant that while reluctant to wear a wire was smart enough to tape some call he had with the FBI. Emad Salem is his name if you want to look it up.

    Did you know in 1945 the Empire state building was hit by a B25 bomber?

    Look at WTC 7 and the fires that supposedly brought it down, there are other buildings that suffered worse fires where their steel structure was still standing despite massive damage from fires that burned upwards of 16 hours. Also, if you feel like doing some hunting WTC 7's collapse was reported as much as 20 minutes early by the BBC news, and a few minutes earely by atleast one FOX station. They, (the Fox station), actually had WTC 7 on their screen while reporting it's collapse only to watch it collapse live after the release of the 'news'. If you look at the 1993 WTC bombing, the 1983 Beirut Embassy Bombing, and the Oklahoma City Bombing and the explosives used in each instance and the fact that those buidings didn't collapse - you have to question the official explaination of why WTC1,2 and 7 all collapsed at freefall speed.  

    I would not have wondered about these things if it weren't for films like Zeitgeist, that at least make you want one to search for the truth for themselves instead of taking what's spoonfed to them.

    Other viewing you might find interesting...

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...  

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOpcPfAar...

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

  6. No, but I love the name!

  7. You have good reason to feel unrest. The most pressing one now is the North American union.

    The treasonous unification of North America is steaming right along while the nation watches reality TV oblivious to the fact that the owners of the mainstream media support the North American union.

    The unofficial name for NAU is Security and Prosperity Partnership. Here is the official propaganda site telling you it is totally harmless.

    http://www.spp.gov/

    The governments are now consulting with elite corporate interests to harmonize administrative law and regulations of the three countries. The people are not even told about it, much less offered a say. The changes to laws and regulations are made to benefit elite corporate interests and not the interests of people or small business. If the SPP is permitted to continue that way, the result will be annihilation of the middle class in America and Canada. Read these pages to get an idea how the harmonization is taking place now and how the ultimate agenda will undoubtedly be a formal union.

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?c...

    http://www.freemarketnews.com/Analysis/1...

    http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom...

    In 2007, honest politicians (yes, we have some) introduced a bill in Congress (HCR40) to stop North American union. So far, there are 48 cosponsors. View the bill at govtrack.us

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd...

    SNOPES.COM denies North American union. If it are correct then why does HCR40 exist and why are all these states formally opposing it?

    Arizona -- HCM 2003

    Idaho -- SJM 113

    Kansas -- HCR 5033

    Missouri -- HCR 17

    New Hampshire -- HCR12

    Ohio -- HCR31

    South Dakota -- SCR13

    Montana -- HJR 25

    Utah -- HR1

    Virginia -- HJ86

    Georgia -- SR124

    Hawaii -- SCR96

    Illinois -- HJR29

    Oklahoma -- SCR10

    Oregon -- SJM5

    Florida -- S670

    Pennsylvania --HR278

    South Carolina -- SCR416

    Tennessee -- SJR088

    Texas -- HB 3647

    Washington -- SJM8004

    Alabama -- SJR68

    Read about those bills on the State web sites. I cannot post them because of Yahoo's new limit on number of links per answer.

    North American union is a stepping stone to one world government. Look around the world at the other unions, European Union, Asian Union, African Union. Are we naive enough to think North America will be spared? Zeitgeist's warning about one-world government is absolutely correct at its core.

    Learn about the Council on Foreign Relations. It wants one-world government. Read its publications about North American integration and global governance. It is uncanny how often CFR policy transforms into exact US foreign policy. That is not by coincidence. Money buys power. The elites behind one-world government have purchased enough politicians to succeed.

    How often does the media even mention the CFR? Not often and that is telling. The media suppresses the NAU news because it (the media) is owned by CFR members and NAU supporters. If you search Canadian web sites, you will learn that at least one media mogul has been lobbying the Canadian government to move ahead more quickly with the Amero currency. Bet that is happening here too but behind closed doors.

    Beware of propaganda from web sites owned by mainstream media where that is not obvious. One such site is WWW.HOWSTUFFWORKS.COM. Look up who owns it, and who owns its parent company, and who owns the parent-parent company. Keep going all the way up to the top and you will find CFR members and people supporting global government.

    Likely unwilling participants in one-world government are [1] the American people, and [2] the regimes of the Middle East. That is where 9-11 fits in. 9-11 (producing substantial gains for the one-world government stooges)

    [1] convince Americans to willingly accept a reduction in the very civil liberties that were designed to protect us from oppression

    [2] an excuse to invade the Middle East to install submissive governments and control the oil

    [3] breaking our economy to increase the likelihood of our peaceful acceptance of North American union and a new currency

    We must press for a new investigation into 9-11. Failure to re-investigate will allow the non-Arab criminals to remain free to pursue their treasonous agenda which will cause the end of our democratic society. That is a task for tomorrow. Today we must press our congressmen to get behind HCR40. The bill will go nowhere with only 48 cosponsors. Whether there are enough patriotic politicians to see it through remains to be seen but right now its our best shot to put a stop to the things you learned of in the movie Zeitgeist.


  8. This film is not worth losing any sleep over.

    I consider it to be an intellectually dishonest documentary, not because of the filmmakers personal bias, but because of its disregard for the truth. There is so much questionable statements that can easily be refuted, or controversial points that have legitimate opposing views that should have been presented.

    - Regarding part 1: Jesus

    The "Mythology of Jesus" theory was an obscure and generally dismissed theory.

    It has gained exposure due to author "Acharya S" and her collaboration with the Zeitgeist filmmaker. (She is also author of the films companion guide)

    Some other views:

    " The idea of Jesus as a myth is rejected by the majority of biblical scholars and historians. In 2004, Richard Burridge and Graham Gould stated that they did not know of any "respectable" scholars that held the view today. Robert E. Van Voorst has stated that biblical scholars and historians regard the thesis as "effectively refuted"."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_myth_...

    For a point-by-point analysis, see http://www.conspiracyscience.com/article...

    For more rebuttals, see http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    - Regarding Part II: 9/11

    It should be noted upfront that being skeptical of the 'official version' of anything presented by the government or media, is a good thing for society. And it should also be noted that questioners of 9/11 'offical versions' range from genuine intellectual pursuits of greater truths, to bizarre interpretations specifically intended to support a unwavering point of view.

    The Zeitgeist filmmaker is part of that spectrum that has bought into the theory that the government orchestrated the whole thing. Unfortunately the evidence they selected and presented was sloppy and much of it easily disproved, even by members of the Truth movement. (I've heard some speculate this may have been a red-herring to discredit the 'truth' movement).

    For a point by point analysis, see http://www.conspiracyscience.com/article...



    - Regarding Part III: Men behind the curtain

    As a liberatarian, I found this part to have had the most potential in exposing abuses of government and men in power. Instead, it trots out tired long disproven conspiracy theories.

    "Income Tax law Doesn't exist" theory - Very stale. Consistently disproven over-and-over again. No new information, just new victims going to jail that fall for these arguments. Very sad.

    "Federal Reserve System is owned by international bankers" - Still a common conspiracy theory. Still wrong. The Federal Reserve System, is headed by the Board of Governors, a Government Agency (look it up - http://www.whitehouse.gov/government/ind... ). The Federal Reserve branches can definitely be considered tightly regulated corporations owned by their member banks, all of which must be American-owned by law. It is receives regular audits, and is overseen by congress.

    For a point-by-point analysis, check out:

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    http://webskeptic.wikidot.com/zeitgeist-...

    Other views:

    "There is no shortage of information which refutes this viewpoint. But this type of conspiracy relies on two elements common to web surfers: First, they're only willing to check facts at the most superficial level, which usually means they'll read a message or watch a clip just once before forming an opinion and moving on. " Ref:

    http://media.wildcat.arizona.edu/media/s...

    "...(a) common problem in the film: presenting something in such a shallow manner without further corroboration or scholarly evidence." - Ref:

    http://gauntlet.ucalgary.ca/story/12284

    There are those who defend the film because they believe that agenda+motive is more important than truth. There is a certain irony here since the films overarching thesis is to be wary of those who would obfuscate the truth in an attempt to persuade others to their point of view.

  9. Good on ya for asking the question. Shows U are not a sheeple.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheeple

    Zeitgeist religious part has some truth. Its conclusion (no Jesus) doesnt hold up to scrutiny. Zeigteist 911--the only peeps that sponge up the govt lies about 911 are the sheeple and the victims of media brainwash. Oh yeah....except the internet trolls and paid govt agents who spend their lives online spreading the govt and federal reserve propaganda. Dont join the ranks of the sheeple. Join the ranks of these high level military & intelligence peeps calling BS on the official govt tale.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/officialsques...

    The movie doesnt get all the 911 facts straight tho. Try snooping around this site and watch the 911 demolitions video on my profile comment. Ask more questions if U have them.

    http://www.wanttoknow.info/911informatio...

    The new world order is real. Some elite global freaks have been working on that since my grandaddy was a puppy. They have our govt and other govts by the short 'n curlies so its all coming together now. RFID implanting technology is already here. Dont let any internet troll tell U its not possible. Its real and the elite global freaks want it to keep the peeps in line for their new world order. The elite global freaks already paid off the FDA. The FDA approved RFID chip implanting in humans knowing about cancer in the test animals. Thats your ever-lovin FDA for ya. RFID companies are starting to advertise their GPS/RFID technology on Google Ads. It won't be long now for full-blown fascism reaches us unless the sheeple awaken.

    Big problem is the elite global freaks have our media in their pocket. B4 you read up on new world order best to first learn why the media lies. Watch this film about the merger of media and govt. It will knock your sox off. It will give U a good idea why the media never talks about the new world order and the North American union or 911 truth. Called Orwell Rolls over in Grave--about merger of media and govt because of concentration of media ownership.

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=...

    The media has become a weapon of class warfare. The elite global freaks have declared class war on us. Thats what their new world order and North American union add up to. Zeitgeist movie is dead on message.

    Ask me about the federal reserve and me blood boils. The fed is not a good deal for peeps. Its a good deal for banksters. Watch the Griffin & Russo videos posted on my profile comment. Some trolls will try to get you sponge up the propaganda from the fed itself and the economics profs. Hey..try to get funding for an economics dept. without singing praises for the fed. No go Joe Joe!  Dont let the fox guard the henhouse. Read up on the fed from peeps who don't have an interest in protecting their beloved fed. We owe much of the blame for the economy on the fed. It was looking out for the banksters and not looking out for the peeps. Look where we R now.

  10. The movie was made to make people who don't believe government lies look bad. They want people who are Christians to close their eyes to government conspiracy plans by insulting the religion then giving a bunch of information out that you can get from other films like Loose Change.

  11. i saw it its like davinci code

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3jXPjt_qCx...

    the movie its mixed truth with lies

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