£22.5k on benefits.?

Question

Working with one of my clients on their budget I assessed they earned, including rent paid for them, £22k in benefits. As a full time worker I earn £24 - my job has a starting salary of £22k. Anyone else think that this is fine 'n' dandy, or do you agree that there needs to be a serious re-think on benefits. (The person claims disability benefits, although they live independently and can walk fine - have a degree, and managed to move themselves to London without help).

Answer 1

It has needed a serious re think for years, the trouble is that there isn't the political will to do it. It would have to be done at the beginning of a new governments term of office or they would get hammered at their next election due to so many being on the take, and due to it being in the recent memory of this group of voters. This gov't when first in power told Frank Field their minister in charge of this dept. to think the unthinkable when coming up with are re-think but the incompetent cabinet didn't like what they saw so they sacked him.  Much of what he predicted has come true especially with pension provisions.

Answer 2

if they have a disability then fine give them benefits but be reasonable about it - I was on incapacity benefit long time ago for panic attacks but i only got income support and an additional £15 per week. The need to re think the system but although people can walk they may have problems.

Answer 3

I've worked and claimed benefits. You don't take into account this person's suffering. Money means nothing to someone who doesn't have their health. Believe me, I'd rather be in your shoes, working and have my sanity.

Answer 4

No major disability? Can walk fine? Are you the doctor as well?

Answer 5

Every one knows this is going on and being collected by those who have neither eligibility or need of the money. It is a matter of  learning how to lie your way into entitlement and having the brass neck to demand it by threats

  

Answer 6

I do in house account managment and my clients are regularly stolen off by persons who are obliged to provide a bank statment as ID before working - i absolutlely love putting the thieving scum's names and addresses along with adequete proof of the various benefits they are not entitled to going into their accounts alongside their wages and (a note on what they were earning with me too ). into the Department of Work and Pensions  .I save up one of the worst for friday after noon (normally one who likes to shout obscenities down the phone at me as i rightly detail how i will be getitng them sued for their thievery ) so i go home to start the weekend with a smile on my face.

what i do i do with no qualms at all i am protecting my society by doing so.

I earn LESS that your sick client by working full time and struggle to make ends meet.

there are more on the sick ( 1.64 million) than are unemployed.(1.59 million)  1 in 20 of those who could work claims to be too ill to work. i know several hundred people well enough to know the state of their health and only one of them is unable to work . my pereto anaylsis indicates the true incidence of those who really are too sick to work should be well under 1% probably under 0.5%  of the work force not the 6% of the workforce that those 1.64m people account for meaning that if I am to believed in my pereto analysis 1.3m of those 1.6m are either , making a mountain out of a molehill or total bullshitters.

thumbs down eh? someone blagging it on the sick eh?

Answer 7

Serious rethink.

So we can pay genuinely disabled a decent rate.

Any who are not disabled that you meet in your professional line, report them.

Answer 8

ERM THEY DO NOT GIVE DISSABILITY BENIFIT AWAY EASILY AS SOME PEOPLE THAT GENUINLY NEED IT DONT GET IT AND HAVE TO RE-APPLY FOR IT AND YES THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE SCAMMING IT SAYING THAT THEY NEED IT AND DONT AS THEY ARE WELL ENOUGH AND NOT DISSABLED

Answer 9

The whole bloody system needs shutting down and starting again from scratch.

Those who seriously need help I have no problem with.

It's the scroungers and work allergic who make a career out of the benefit system who need sorting.

I knew one bloke who claimed he had a problem with his hands - had no control over them shaking uncontrollably he claimed

-  had 4 kids and spent all day on his allotment and garden.

Another had a "back problem", was in his 30's, had a job for 6 weeks when he left school at 16 but didn't like it. Had a 3 year old car on his driveway, 2 foreign holidays a year, 3 kids and a "beer fridge" in his shed - all paid for by the system.

And then people wonder why the country's skint!!

Answer 10

Serious re-think please!

Sounds like your client is highly adept at playing the system.  I am interested to know what disability s/he claims to have.

Answer 11

it sucks that i earn only 1k more, but hey what can we do, this country loves to give away our hard earned money to people who *clearly* need it more...

Answer 12

I am 100% in favour of there being some kind of support net for people who lose their job, or who cannot work through no fault of their own.

However, it increasingly seems to be a lifestyle choice for people who simply cannot be bothered to earn their own money.

It needs tweaking.

Answer 13

Do you think disabled people ask to be disabled? Because I wish I was able boded again and be able to work 12 to 18 hours a day again. I agree there are people out there who cream the system and they need weeding out but it is always the real disabled people who suffer in the long run. As for the 22 grand a year please tell me how they manage that because I don't get that a year and I have a wheelchair stuck to my ***.  

Answer 14

Yes benefits need investigation. We all accept that for some people benefits are essential as they are unable to work, although you could argue that these benefits can be too generous. Undoubtedly there are some crooked scroungers around who need a good kick up the ****, or even impisonment for their fraudulent claims.